100% incorrect and you're being intellectually dishonest as usual. I've repeatedly stated the war needs to end. Suggesting we need to re-arm the corrupt Ukraine government is absurd and low iq stupid.
This is a head scratcher. Lets play this big brain scenario out for a moment, mkay? Russia invades. The highly respectable and stable Ukraine government then decides to deploy its entire nuclear arsenal on Russia. Russia then launches nukes at Ukraine. But since Russia is now wiped off the face of the map and has been eliminated, they say WTH! This is NATO's fault! Now every NATO country is gone. And the United States. The world is now a nuclear cesspool because Amiga and friends thought for a moment "Well, if Ukraine had nukes, the world would have been better off". All because they wanted to defend a corrupt eastern Europe country because Politico and friends told him that is what he should do... instead of thinking for himself.
The scenario you laid out is not how nuclear deterrence works. MAD isn't about launching nukes the moment a conflict starts; it's about preventing the conflict in the first place. Ukraine having retained nuclear weapons wouldn’t mean they’d be used - it would mean Russia might have never invaded to begin with. Russia itself relies on nuclear deterrence to keep NATO from intervening directly in Ukraine, proving that nuclear capabilities influence strategic decision-making. And if nuclear weapons were so irrelevant to deterrence, Russia, China, and even smaller powers like North Korea wouldn't be investing in them. The idea that Ukraine keeping its nukes would have inevitably led to total global destruction is speculative. If that logic were true, India and Pakistan would have already wiped each other out, yet deterrence has kept them from escalating to full-scale war. If anything, the real concern now is that the U.S. appearing unreliable is making more nations consider nuclear options - Poland, Germany, Taiwan, and South Korea. That’s the real-world consequence of weakened deterrence.
If Russia leaves, and leaves the territories it invaded as they were, returns the thousands of children it abducted, lays down it's weapons and gets the f*CK out of Ukraine, then there could be peace. Even after they destroyed so much of Ukraine, and bombed all those schools, hospitals, and killed so many innocent women, children, and babies, there could be peace. But, Putin wants more. That's the problem. The head scratcher is that Don the Dictator wannabe wants to appease Putin, his mentor and idol.
This can be said about every conflict in the world. Why are you hyper focusing on Ukraine? Is it because Politico told you that you should be angry about this? Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands or millions dying every year in other conflicts (the answer is clearly NO!)
Just think if women were in charge. Most of the wars are started by men who just can't leave other countries alone. I care about all the innocent people bombed by ruthless leaders wanting more and more and more power. It's disgusting. It's just as disgusting to me that people kill over religion. That's so hypocritical to me. Its just like the Middle East. Those wars over religion will never stop. Do you think we should stay out of them too? Let them fend for themselves? Or, do you believe Trump should get involved and spend US money buying the Gaza strip in an area where wars will never stop, just so he and his family members can build resorts?
I think that's what MAGA isolationists want anyways...for them "foot their own bill". SK and Taiwan did consider their own nuke programs but Adults in the US were worried it'd freak out China and accelerate their nuclear stockpile. We put them under our nuclear umbrella instead. Now it's **** you pay me.
Supporting the corrupt and war mongering Putin regime is absurd and low in stupid. Tell Putin to stop invading his neighbors and trying to reestablish the territory of the Soviet empire. Low IQ and a war monger… not a good look for you. Hey where are those new Trump sanctions?! lol…
Yep I agree...USA is unparalleled for getting ahead, yes even still. Some of us rightly bring up issues like DEI/racism but most of the rest of the world is far more racist. We like to complain about upward mobility being dead but if you are above-average in intelligence, marketable talent and/or work ethic, there is no better country to build wealth/accomplish stuff. If you aren't though, maybe a more socialist country would be better for you.
You Putin war mongers are terrifying. You guys just hate people who disagree with you. You literally want the whole world to burn. You literally don’t care Russia is stealing Ukrainian children. Even a mentally handicapped adolescent understands the dangers of nuclear weapons proliferation. Fortunately China told Putin not to use nuclear weapons.
Using your logic, we should arm everyone with nukes. Which is a terrible idea. Can you at least acknowledge that Ukraine has had a very unstable government and the country is very divided?
They aren’t divided about the Russia invasion…. It’s weird how your side leveled the population centers of eastern Ukraine, where they might actually support. Why’d you war monger kill all those civilians that might have been on your side?
Its best not to get into a discussion about women running the world. But yes, we agree. War is disgusting, regardless of reason and its a very select few who lives in palaces, free from the terror brought by war. This includes Putin, Zelenskyy, Biden, and all the European leaders who continue to press for war. My position is this - If other countries want to buy our weapons, let them. We have no business funding other peoples problems. If genocide is occurring, then use the UN (which is laughable ofc). I don't have a problem holding key strategic areas at force that are in the best interest of America. Im not an isolationist. I have a very low tolerance for political wars and Ukraine is absolutely a political war. While I was not vocal about Iraq, I always felt like it was just a very bad idea. And I would be ok holding key regions of Afghanistan to this day if were we not spending hundreds of billions to do it.
I don't support Putin. you can stop being an NPC and repeating that line. I have repeatedly stated we have no business in this war. You are the one who continues to propagate the need for killing.
Like I said, all Putin has to do is leave, return the thousands of children, and let there be peace. He wants more, and Trump will be right there kissing the boots of that evil and corrupt dictator. It's sickening that Trump has no balls to actually call Putin out for what he is, a war mongering and despicable human rights abuser, torturer, and corrupt and evil dictator. It's pathetic, and Putin loves the man with no balls in the orange painted face running our country. He knows he can manipulate Trump so easily with a call or smile. The MAGA loyalists have no balls either to stand up to Trump. A bunch of cowardly humans who do anything to spin the truth.
If you were pro exiting Vietnam you were "pro-Communist" If you were pro exiting Afghanistan you were "pro-Taliban" I guess if you're not willing to go to war with China to protect the Uyghur minority you a pro-China/pro-genocide Such lame attack lines.
You keep parroting the Putin propaganda…. I go by actions. We literally have a security alliance against Russia’s consistent and historical aggression and they are knocking on the door of the security alliance. What a stupid thing to say…. Instead of nuance… just post a bunch of low IQ rhetoric coming from you.
There are ways to intelligently discuss the pros and cons of supporting Ukraine against a current adversary… Unfortunately that’s just not a lot of y’all’s MO….
Oh, look, someone who can't formulate a cogent response so just uses insults. Clearly, the real genius here.
