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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

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  1. durvasa

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    No, I don't agree with that.
     
  2. Commodore

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    "War is cruelty and you cannot refine it. The crueler we make it, the shorter it will be." - William T. Sherman

    “You people of the South Gaza don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about.

    War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North Israel. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North West can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors.

    You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.”

    ― William T. Sherman
     
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  3. dmoneybangbang

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    I thought Trump was going to end all of these wars?!

    Maybe he was being sarcastic
     
  4. ROXTXIA

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    FIFY.
     
  5. Nook

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    @Exiled
     
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  6. Nook

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    Agreed!

    Sincerely,

    Adolf Hitler
     
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  7. astros123

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    @Nook the Israeli government dropped flyers in gaza last night saying they are executing trumps plan of mass deportations and they will be moved one way or another. They then brag that nobody in the world cares for them and their Arab states sell them oil and weapons and give yall crackers. "The world map will not disappear if the people of Gaza disappear. Nobody will notice" USA and Europe don't care about you. "Our forces will stay until judgement day"

    Sicko sicko stuff. Just sick
     
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  8. Nook

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    Yeah - it has just been internationally accepted that there will be a genocide against the Palestinians because no one is really willing to stop it. I anticipate that the Israeli's will try to have it so far down the road that it cannot be undone by the time Trump is out of office. With all of the fall out from mass immigration in Europe, the election or growing support of right-wing politicians and the quagmire in Ukraine - it is the perfect time for Israel to do some "cleaning".
     
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  9. DonnyMost

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    This is such a stupid quote if true.

    Were Hiroshima and Nagasaki cruel? Crueler than a full scale invasion and occupation?

    Cruelty is not the point of war, as much as war mongers who masquerade around as libertarians on basketball message boards pretend it is.
     
  10. Nook

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    It is a stupid quote - and history shows that extreme cruelty in war is a mixed bag. It has worked at times in ancient history but it has also greatly hurt in modern war. The Nazi extreme brutality against the Jews and Russians was a massive mistake. So was some of the brutality in WWI by the Germans.

    The neo-nativist view of World War II holds that it was unnecessary and immoral for the USA.

    They don't seem to realize that the death toll for US soldiers, Japanese soldiers and even civilians would have been absolutely massive as the US would have to go through mountains and terrain.
     
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    Let’s go!
     
  12. astros123

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    You can use the word ethnic cleansing. Dont be a coward.

    The IDF is openly stating they are following Trumps demand of ethnically cleansing the entire area and are mocking the entire population that they will be killed and you actually had piece of **** muslims who advocated for Trump to win @Exiled .

    Scumbags
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    Damn I actually never knew that Palestinians were a level of threat to American hegomony and international order akin to *check notes*....


    Imperial Japan.

    Like damn how many nuclear powered naval carriers does Hamas have at this point?
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    No one should ever compare stateless humans that don't have basic self determination rights to Nazi Germany and imperial Japan. We leveled major cities in those countries because the Nazi military had the means to invade all of Europe and up end the world international order. They weren't leveling Dresden to rescue the Jews as soon as possible. They leveled Dresden because the Nazi regime had the means to invade all of America's closest trading partners.
     
  15. astros123

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    The israelis are dropping pamphlets in gaza stating they are following Trumps order of ethnic cleansing and America wants them all gone so they're simply following orders. This is Trump forcing the IDF to displace Palestinians so he can build his resort there

    Put the blame where its due. You leftists own this
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    I honestly wish I had the amount of money to be able to donate weapons to Israel. I wouldn't donate to them but would enjoy the amount of wealth.

    I don't know why a you blaming me? I didn't send Israel any weapons.

    Genocide Joe had the means to use tax payer money to find Israel weapons for a genocide and Genocide Joe enthusiastically donated some genocide weapons.
     
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    Genocide Joe wasn't telling the IDF that they had to displace 1.2 million Palestinians. Genocide Joe told the IDF that not a single inch of gaza would be annexed by Israel. Bibi said on record that they had no intention of staying in gaza long term cuz of the Americans.

    You braindead lefties spent the entire election campaign white washing Trump while claiming "the Genocide can't get any worst cuz its already a Genocide." It's about to get a whole lot worst by a magnitude of 100.

    The Muslim population overwhelming voted for the guy whos forcing the IDF to displace millions of people. History will not be kind to you trolls
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    Genocide Joe says things and then allows the IDF to eliminate almost the entire water infrastructure in Gaza, hospital infrastructure in Gaza etc whole approving weapon shipments


    Genocide Joe allowed Israel to do 90% of the leg work to get to where we are today with a flattened inhospitable to life Gaza
     
  19. astros123

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    Genocide Joe actually a permanent ceasefire proposal in place even after the October 7 attack which would've saved Palestinians from being destroyed. It was hamas that rejected the permanent ceasefire deal. Now they're being offered less than what Biden offered them. None of the damage in gaza would've happened if Hamas agreed to the permanent ceasefire.

    You braindead lefties are a big reason why Trump won. You losers spent the entire election campaign rehabilitating Trump and telling others the Genocide couldn't get worse.

    It's about to get much much worst and you lefties own it

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...turn-permanent-ceasefire-egyptian-2023-12-25/
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    Hamas didn't turn Gaza into a leveled inhospitable for life zone. The IDF did that with Genocide Joe's approval


    And I don't know why you are blaming me. I voted for Genocide Joe. And so did the vast majority of leftists.


    The "Cheney family is pretty cool" demo that Harris was trying to to capture right before the election underperformed in turnout. In fact many of them still voted for MAGA.
     

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