Free speech is important, but if you are here as a guest of the country, they have a right to kick you out. you aren’t a citizen, you are there by their grace. I hate Trump, but this seems like the guy overstayed his welcome. maybe he should have pursued citizenship, earlier. DD
Finkelstein was not a good example, I have yet to see one. In my post which you partially quoted, I allowed for the fact that there may be some person who is questioning the exact number and nature of the rapes and murders due to a hyper focus on accuracy. I have not yet been presented with such an example, nor do I expect to be.
Finkelstein is a political scientist known for his work on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Holocaust studies, holding a PhD from Princeton. Rabbani is a political analyst specializing in Middle Eastern affairs, particularly Palestinian issues. While you may disagree with their views, that does not mean you can assume their intentions. If you're asking for someone specifically focused on forensic accuracy in these cases, that may be a different discussion, but dismissing scholars outright based on disagreement is not a strong argument.
The hyper focus of accuracy is the difference between saying that Hamas or Palestinian resistance and terror attacks employ rape as a tactic and at a systemic level or at a level that is witnessed with pretty much every standing military that actively engages in violent incursions on foreign lands like US Marines in Iraq and Afghanistan. The reason being is that a settler colonial state that wants to commit a ethnic cleansing needs to create manufactured consent for said ethnic cleansing and often they use the "they are all barbarians that rape at a systemic level" line. I mean this seems like a common tactic by the entity that commits genocide in civilization history.
You really need to learn the laws. A natural born citizen CANNOT have their citizenship revoked, except if they do certain things to renounce their citizeship. They have to leave the US for these. A revocation cannot happen until they do these VOLUNTARY things (Assumed renounciation). This was decided by the Supreme Court twice. Fischer tried to renounce his citizenship, but it was never accepted even though he gained Icelandic citizenship. You may be confused because he did have his passport revoked due to having an arrest warrant.
Yes, although its nearly impossible to lose the citizenship as a natural born citizen but it can still happen if you commit treason, and you don't have to leave the US per se, you could fund the US enemy while being in the States and that would get it revoked.
With this administration they would not revoke his green card. They would go old school firing squad.
First off, this thread has been wild and I need to catch up. Also, it really seems like the feds didn't know he was a permanent resident and thought they were deporting a visa holder, which is a better legal argument in my opinion because it's simply shortening someone who is temporarily in the US. Then they realized they made a mistake and are trying to pivot the justification, but that case is looking pretty thin and extreme.
Isn't part of the American "way of life" an environment in which people are safe to having open political dialogue, including expressing controversial perspectives, without the threat of being arrested because of it? Are those who seek to stifle such dialogue acting in support of or against that "way of life"?
If someone says, "For the past 20 years the people of Gaza, half of whom are children, have been immured in a concentration camp. Today they breached the camp's walls. If we honor John Brown's armed resistance to slavery; if we honor the Jews who revolted in the Warsaw Ghetto—then moral consistency commands that we honor the heroic resistance in Gaza. I, for one, will never begrudge—on the contrary, it warms every fiber of my soul—the scenes of Gaza's smiling children as their arrogant Jewish supremacist oppressors have, finally, been humbled. The stars above in heaven are looking kindly down. Glory, glory, hallelujah. The souls of Gaza go marching on!" after witnessing the October 7th attack, I don't need to assume his intentions. They are fairly explicit.
You still can't support groups like Hamas, because the US government considers 'em a terrorist organization. You are allowed to support the Palestinian people all you want. This guy got cought, thats all there is to it.
To be sure, you can't advocate for terrorism and not expect to have your permission to remain as a legal resident highly scrutinized and possibly revoked. I understand that. The issue is what counts as "advocating for terrorism". The law uses vague language about "support" or "alignment" with a designated terrorist organization. But that doesn't imply one is actually advocating for terrorist actions. Groups like Hamas engage in terrorism, but if I say "I agree with Hamas's position on these counts" does that automatically mean I must also condone let alone advocate for their terrorist activity? No, it doesn't. And if I am free to express such a view, as a citizen, because a free exchange of ideas is important to our way of life, then that same freedom should extend to foreign nationals who have been given permission to reside here.
