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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. kpdark

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    He is mostly spamming Alpe as Fred did.

    Alperen wasn't converting as much before, so his never exceeded 6.

     
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    With that logic, one should wonder if extending fvv is even worth it if green role playing as pg is able to do the same thing with similar success. And if green could do it, what about amen and reed?
     
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    I've heard Ime say several times that we need Jalen to be aggressive and the team is at it's best when he is consistently a threat to score, putting pressure on defense. And he's not going to turn into Jalen from past Marches by not looking to score as much, so don't fully understand your point here.

    Lavine didn't achieve >.600 TS% until his 7th season. He had Jalen efficiency until then.
     
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    Still feels like he will be the piece to attach to picks this offseason.

    FVV has been out for many weeks and Green hasn't exactly stepped up to take ownership or made a major additional impact in FVV's absence. Has our offense cratered? No, but I think it says something.
     
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    I was saying that we shouldn't retain FVV before this revelation .... He's been abysmal all season and his inability to finish at the rim really limits the effectiveness of this offense.

    IF Jalen can run the offense, that opens up the possibility of adding either a PG or SG this offseason rather than being limited to just a PG.

    The only way I consider keeping FVV is that I have a deal already in place to move him and his contract out the door via trade - essentially "I need his contract" to pull it off.

    Otherwise, I'm moving on.
     
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    Lavine after his rookie season posted an above league average TS every season except the acl tear one. Jalen has never sniffed that.
     
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    You don't he is stepping up?
     
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    If we get him I really hope it doesn' cost us Sengun or Amen. I am not a big fan of Booker. How many winning seasons did he have as the best player of the team? The combination of Booker and Green is not something I really want to see.

    I have gone back and forth with my opinion of Green. In general I am not a fan of the type of player, not even in the best versions of it (I was also never a fan of Kobe, Iverson etc). I get really frustrated watching him. I am surprised that he has had 8 assists in the previous games. So maybe it is mostly confirmation bias when I watch the game, because it feels like he hardly ever passes, and passing is a last resort when he could not get a shot of.. When he gets a screen he looks for his shot in 90% of the time IMHO. It feels like he isn't trying to create for others.

    But again maybe it is just confirmation bias.
     
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    I noticed a few games back that Udoka must be asking Jalen to play
    more of a role of distributor, since VanVleet is out.

    It will help the Rockets in the long run.

    If Amen and Green do well enough, the Rockets might be able to get out of
    that $44M VanVleet deal this summer.
     
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    I dont mind shipping away Jalen but it better be for an upgrade. Booker is just an older more expensive Jalen at this point.
     
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    I don't think he'll ever be able to run the point if I'm being honest, and I'm not one to be pessimistic about Green. I don't think his brain works that way. He's a guy you have to keep in pure attack and defense mode. Points and defense are still the two most important things in basketball, focusing on those two gives him plenty of room for high impact.

    Some people are good at multi-tasking without going very deep. Some people are better at focusing on a single task and getting very deep with it. I think he's the latter. He's just not going to be the stereotype triple double machine, and to be honest those guys tend to underperform in the playoffs anyway. The traditional SG archetype Green is following is a more successful model to this day. Warriors, Nuggets, Bucks, Cavs, Heat didn't have triple double guys at the guard positions. Clearly defined roles seem to work better.

    I would say he's more like Booker where you can maybe trust him in 4-5 years to be a semi-decent PG. For the time being it's good for learning some new things. I would rather Amen runs the point from the SF position and we get a 3&D guy like Suggs to guard the PG's.
     
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    Amen will be the point of the future, Jalen is just doing it cuz we only have Holiday left.
     
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    Because Ime has asked him to change his approach with all the injuries? That was my point, Ime asked him to take a step back and facilitate. I agree he always wanted him to be aggressive, but now its obvious hes being asked to look to get others going first. Whats not to understand?
     
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    The problem with FVV is his role and his contract....if he is getting the Holiday role and a little more playing time he would do wonders as he is a better shooter than JG.

    Nobody is complaining about Mike Conley jr. in Minnesota.

     
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    chill out Jalen...
     
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    I've been really impressed with what Jalen has started to showcase in Fred's absence. It was painful to watch in the Silas years, but Jalen can be a decent facilitator when asked to be one - something I thought I would never say a few years back. I think there is still a bit of an art to him understanding when to be aggressive as a scorer and when to get his teammates the ball, but it's clear he has the skills to do both but is still on some path to understanding the art of "when"....but back to his facilitation skills:

    - he is making reads a lot quicker
    - he is hitting his teammates much more in the pocket
    - he seems to be starting to grasp how the threat of his drive can create easier passing lanes for finding teammates
    - he is getting stronger and thus is having more success passing on the move
    - he's making the easy unexciting play to find open(ish) guys - and his guys are starting to nail the shots

    ....the reads are still relatively simplistic, but if you make them fast enough, that might not matter. Anyway, kudos to Jalen for showing continued improvement in his game. It hasn't necessarily all happened in the order you would want, but there is strong evidence that he is adding fundamentals to this game every year and is getting better at finding different ways to impact the game. That his shooting and finishing at the hoop is finally starting to trend up gives me hope that he might be a better long term solution at SG if you can take advantage of the slow start to his career to get some value on his contract. I know there is the specter of an inevitable Devin Booker trade hanging over him, but the more I watch both Booker and Green, the less convinced I am that Green can't get somewhere in the ballpark of a guy like Booker with a few more years of experience.
     
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