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The Arrest of Mahmoud Khalil

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by JuanValdez, Mar 10, 2025.

  1. fchowd0311

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    Buddy your Fleshlight isn't sentient.

    You want to prove you ****? Express basic empathy skills. If you can't and you ****? Then you probably rape then.

    So you either **** but rape or you don't ****. Because you lack basic empathy skills. You have an inability to connect to other humans outside the online troll behavior with other anonymous people. You waste time doing alt account stuff on a basketball forum to "trigger" people. That is a sign of a incel.

    Show some basic empathy at the level where I think you interact with humans face to face daily. If you can prove that I will believe you ****.
     
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    Haha, ok. In that case, the video of that Jewish woman testifying about harassment didn't mention "them".
     
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    He’s a terrorist breh
    Terrorists who hold Americans hostage
    @CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    He's not a terrorist. He is Palestinian so he supports them.

    The government isn't calling him terrorist so stop lying
     
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    He’s a terrorist breh
    He supports Hamas
    That’s why he’s gone in the plane with Bane flying over South America now
    @Salvy
     
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    Why does the government say he hasn't committed a crime? Isn't terrorism a crime?
     
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    Statute cannot abrogate one's civil rights. They've subjected him to undue search and seizure and denied his right to due process. Maybe they have a process where they can revoke his green card, but they didn't actually do it before arresting him.
     
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    What a great movie

    according to the woke people here , Batman is the bad guy
     
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    He was on the side of protesters who are “aligned” with Hamas. From the Trump admin’s standpoint, if you are against Israel’s attacks on Gaza and demand the US puts pressure on Israel to stop, you are “aligned” with Hamas and can be deported.

    I’ve yet to see anyone showing that he has expressed support for terrorist acts. Can’t attribute statements of other people to him and then deport him for it.
     
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    On CNN a Republican rep says now there is "classified" evidence that he is funded by terror organizations. The panel kept on asking for specifics and he kept on saying it is "classified".

    These people are fascists. They just make up **** in thin air just to justify their cruelty.
     
  17. durvasa

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    He worked for UNHCR, which some of
    these people regard as a “terror organization”. His ties to UNHCR certainly isn’t classified.

    Let’s ask grok whether it’s accurate to refer to UNHCR as a terror organization:


    No, it is not accurate to classify the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) as a terrorist organization. Such a characterization is baseless and contradicts the organization's mandate, operations, and international standing. Below is a detailed assessment to clarify this:

    ### 1. **What is UNHCR?**
    - The UNHCR is a United Nations agency established in 1950 by the UN General Assembly. Its primary mandate is to protect and support refugees, forcibly displaced persons, and stateless individuals worldwide.
    - It provides humanitarian assistance, including shelter, food, medical care, education, and legal protection, to millions of vulnerable people fleeing war, persecution, or disaster.
    - UNHCR operates in over 130 countries and is funded primarily by voluntary contributions from governments, organizations, and private donors.

    ### 2. **Criteria for Designating a Terrorist Organization**
    - A terrorist organization is typically defined as a group that engages in or supports acts of violence, intimidation, or coercion, often for political, ideological, or religious purposes, targeting civilians or non-combatants.
    - Designations of terrorist organizations are made by governments (e.g., the U.S. State Department, the UN Security Council, or the European Union) based on evidence of such activities, including attacks, funding of violence, or recruitment for extremist purposes.

    ### 3. **Does UNHCR Fit This Definition?**
    - **No evidence of violent activities**: UNHCR is a humanitarian organization, not a political or militant group. It does not engage in or promote violence, terrorism, or any form of coercion. Its work is strictly humanitarian and governed by principles of neutrality, impartiality, and independence.
    - **International legitimacy**: UNHCR operates under the authority of the United Nations and is recognized globally as a legitimate humanitarian agency. It has received two Nobel Peace Prizes (1954 and 1981) for its efforts in protecting refugees.
    - **Accountability and transparency**: UNHCR is subject to rigorous oversight by the UN, member states, and independent audits. Its funding and operations are transparent, with detailed reports published annually.

    ### 4. **Potential Sources of Misinformation**
    - **Misrepresentation of refugee issues**: Some critics or fringe groups may falsely associate UNHCR with terrorism due to its work with refugees, particularly in conflict zones. For example, there have been baseless claims that UNHCR facilitates the movement of terrorists disguised as refugees. However, there is no credible evidence to support such allegations, and UNHCR has strict screening processes in collaboration with host governments to ensure security.
    - **Political agendas**: In some cases, UNHCR may be criticized by certain governments or political groups for political reasons, such as disagreements over refugee policies or resettlement programs. These criticisms, however, do not equate to evidence of terrorism.
    - **Conspiracy theories**: Online misinformation and conspiracy theories may falsely label UNHCR as part of a "globalist" or "subversive" agenda, but these claims are not grounded in fact and are often propagated by extremist or anti-immigrant groups.

    ### 5. **UNHCR’s Role in Conflict Zones**
    - UNHCR often operates in challenging environments, including areas affected by conflict or instability (e.g., Syria, Afghanistan, South Sudan). In such contexts, it works to provide aid to civilians while maintaining neutrality.
    - There have been rare instances where individuals or groups in refugee camps have been involved in criminal or extremist activities, but this is not unique to UNHCR’s operations and does not imply organizational complicity. UNHCR collaborates with host governments and security agencies to address such issues and ensure safety.

    ### 6. **Counterarguments and Rebuttals**
    - **Allegations of mismanagement or bias**: Some critics argue that UNHCR has inefficiencies, mismanagement, or biases in its operations (e.g., prioritizing certain groups of refugees over others). While these are valid points for discussion and reform, they do not equate to terrorism.
    - **Association with controversial policies**: UNHCR’s role in resettlement programs or advocacy for refugee rights may be unpopular in some political circles, but this is a policy disagreement, not evidence of terrorist activity.

    ### 7. **Conclusion**
    - Labeling UNHCR a terrorist organization is inaccurate, unfounded, and likely stems from misinformation, political agendas, or a misunderstanding of its role. The organization is a globally recognized humanitarian agency with a clear mandate to protect vulnerable populations, not to engage in or support terrorism.
    - If you encounter claims to the contrary, it is important to critically evaluate the sources of such information, check for credible evidence, and consider the context in which these claims are made.
     
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    https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/dhs-detains-columbia-university-student-gaza




    On Wednesday, Khalil was among the protesters at a sit-in at Milstein Library in Columbia University’s Barnard College, protesting the recent expulsion of three Barnard students over pro-Palestine activism. New York Police Department officers later arrested nine individuals from the same protest—the third round of arrests of pro-Palestine demonstrators on Columbia’s campuses in the past year.

    Over the course of Thursday and Friday, several prominent pro-Israel groups and individuals published a series of tweets targeting Khalil, mentioning his presence at the sit-in on Wednesday and his history as a lead negotiator with Columbia in April 2024, and demanded that the Trump administration act strongly against him by revoking his visa and deporting him. They tagged President Donald Trump, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and US Attorney General Pam Bondi.

    Shai Davidai, a professor at Columbia Business School, who was suspended from entering Columbia’s Morningside campus in 2024 following allegations of misconductagainst students and staff of the university, tweeted, “Illegally taking over a college in which you are not even enrolled and distributing terrorist propaganda should be a deportable offense, no? Because that’s what Mahmoud Khalil from @ColumbiaSJP did yesterday at @BarnardCollege”.

    “Documenting Jew Hatred on Campus at Columbia U”—an account on X with more than 20,000 followers—tweeted, “Secretary Rubio (@SecRubio), please revoke Mahmoud Khalil's visa!” On March 6, Rubio had tweeted that “those who support designated terrorist organizations, including Hamas, threaten our national security” and that such “violators of U.S law—including international students—face visa denial or revocation, and deportation.”

    A pro-Israel student protester at Columbia shared that Khalil was “known to have been on a foreign visa last year” before stating that he “recently helped illegally take over a library building”. Canary Mission posted against Khalil on their social media profiles with the caption “SUSPECTED FOREIGN NATIONAL ALERT”.

    A post on Instagram by “Documenting Jew Hatred On Campus” and another account, “Jews In School,” referred to Khalil as a “foreign student agitator at Columbia University” and “the poster child for demonstrating that the Trump administration is serious about revoking visas of foreign students who support terrorism, foment hatred, and harass Jews.”

    After Khalil’s detention on Sunday, Rubio clarified that the State Department planned to revoke green cards, not only visas, of so-called “Hamas supporters” “so they can be deported.”


     
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    Man I'm just thinking about his wife with a baby upcoming. This is tragic and cruel.

    People defending this to trigger people... why do you get joy out of pain of others so much?
     
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    NYT:


    What’s the legal basis for his arrest?
    The Trump administration did not publicly lay out the legal authority for the arrest. But two people with knowledge of the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive internal deliberations, said Secretary of State Marco Rubio relied on a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 that gives him sweeping power to expel foreigners.

    The provision says that any “alien whose presence or activities in the United States the Secretary of State has reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States is deportable.”

    What is Mr. Khalil being accused of?
    That is not very clear.

    Mr. Rubio reposted a Homeland Security Department statement that accused Mr. Khalil of having “led activities aligned to Hamas.” But officials have not accused him of having any contact with the terrorist group, taking direction from it or providing material support to it.

    Rather, the administration’s rationale is that the protests that Mr. Khalil played a key part in were antisemitic and created a hostile environment for Jewish students at Columbia, the people with knowledge of the matter said. Mr. Rubio’s argument, they said, is that the United States’ foreign policy includes combating antisemitism across the globe and that Mr. Khali’s residency in the nation undermines that policy objective.
     

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