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The offical Trump Tariff thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. adoo

    adoo Member

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    i wish that you'd stop making up crap.

    during the COVID shutdown, the DOW was at its lowest at just above 18K in early 2020, Trump 1.0's last year. post COVID. After Biden's much more effective handling
    of the pandemic and after him signing the Infrastructure bill and the CHIPs Act, the DOW reached at its highest at ~51K, an increase of 181% from the low​
    again, you are confused and all mixed up.

    you had used the COVID low as a point of reference, which took place in early 2020, why are you going back to 2010, a decade before COVID? stay on topic

    btw,
    • since Nov 2022, for 2 years, the Fed has either paused or raise the discount rate
    • the fed implemeting QE when warranted, such as when the Great Depression and the W recession, is extremely responsible monetary policy

    it's too bad that you lack the mental capacity to comprehend monetary policies​



    stop cutting n pasting terms about which you don't understand
     
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  2. adoo

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    o_O:rolleyes::rolleyes:


    Trump made the stock market a marker of success. Now he's hedging as markets dip.




    When Trump wanted to make the case for his first term’s success in an interview last month, he turned to the stock market.

    “I was very proud to have handed over the country when the stock market was higher than it was, previous to the pandemic coming in,” he said in a Fox News interview Feb. 9. “It was an amazing achievement.”

    And in his second term, he has promised that trend would continue.

    “The stock market is going to be great,” he told the crowd at an investor conference Feb. 19.

    But after stocks began a downward spiral last week on fears Trump's use of tariffs will tip the United States into a recession, his tone has changed.

    “You can’t really watch the stock market,” Trump said in an interview that aired Sunday on Fox News.​
     
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  3. Buck Turgidson

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  4. strosb4bros

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    This is what cracks me up about your type- the stupid don't listen to the intelligent. They prefer gotcha headlines on tik tok and name calling to keep them in their comfort zone instead of going through the pain of listening to intelligent people. Pretty much all the major players, with the exception of T Lee, had been flashing warning signs repeatedly. Throughout 2024 and into 2025. They talk about it extensively in podcasts and interviews (some available for free) but media companies sugarcoat it in their headlines so casual Joe's keep clapping like seals.

    Warren Buffet kept stockpiling cash, pushing it to record levels, selling Apple and had been talking about the lack of value for years. Only shale energy companies had attractive valuations. You can not watch the news ever, read 1 Berkshire annual report a year, and know more about what's coming than 95% of the population.

    Stanley Druckenmiller sold his stake in NVDA over a year ago cuz the bubble was getting too wild and he was deeply concerned about the budget deficit. NVDA's price has skyrocketed since then (bubble) and he still gets on air to say the same things - how high debt interest is to GDP and the consequences it can have.

    Stanley Druckenmiller: Tariffs are simply a consumption tax that foreigners pay for some of it

    Ray Dalio, Bridgewater founder, says the U.S. economy is heading for a “debt death spiral” unless the Trump Administration takes urgent action to cut the deficit. He also called for a “fiscal commission” to address the challenge, and said he’s “concerned” about current U.S. equity valuations. He adds that investors should look to diversify with gold and digital currencies.

    The list goes on.

    Most importantly, they make their thoughts clear with their actions. They have been net sellers into this pump, knowing we're in the 7-9 inning phase. Some people make a lot of money in those innings, but most get caught swimming naked, as Buffet says.
     
  5. astros123

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    MAGA cultists are now pivoting to claiming a stock market crash is actually good for the economy. This **** is too funny.

    These cultists would literally jump off a bridge if they thought it would help their orange messiah
     
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  6. HP3

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    So you typed all of that out just not answer my question. Stockpiling cash and selling overvalued assets isn't a recession forecast, it's basic investing.

    Stop using this alt account.
     
  7. CCorn

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    I guess Trumps plan is to tank the economy and declare bankruptcy.
     
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  8. DatRocketFan

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    Trump stupid tariffs are gonna drag us into a recession.
     
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  9. strosb4bros

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    when asset classes are too overvalued and built on a deck of cards, the fall comes hard and swift

    a recession is simply a reversion towards the mean when in a bubble

    Every investor has been flashing warning signs for a year now

    The way your answer keeps getting answered but you need it literally spelt out is telling

    Same thing happened in 08... same thing in 01 ... different asset classes ..

     
  10. strosb4bros

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    "we were already in a bubble" from the 2010 fed printing non stop with non existent interest rates

    2020 covid low - spy 214
    The v shape bounce back to 330 - many big names were shorting aggressively at this point due to overvaluation
    2025 bubble hi - 615
    today price - 560

    calculate it using your "mental capacity" :p

    it is not rocket science, but a simple dose of reality that is long overdue

    the sooner it gets out of the way, the better
     
  11. astros123

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    Difference being is corporate America is lowering guidance and forecasts for the upcoming year which is the reason of the decline in equities. This isn't some normal pullback. Corporations are missing their targets and thus lowering guidance.

    Also Druckenmiller claims the national debt is the number 1 issue which isn't something the Trump administration is listening too. The house just approved 4+ trillion dollars in debt which will make the situation worst lol.

    Man yall cultists are so braindead
     
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  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Trump Tariffs - dude is fully following Putin's orders to destroy the American economy.
     
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  13. SamFisher

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    When you're (your?) getting your ass kicked in a stupid trade war that nobody wanted, you come out with loser energy beta posts like this:

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    "Your not even allowed to do that"
    "Canada is a tariff abuser"

    That's just pure loser b**** talk.

    Trump is getting absolutely smoked (and so are we).
     
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  14. Buck Turgidson

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    That's my favorite line of all the idiot lines in that whole spiel.

    btw: ~33% of our lumber is imported from Canada. But we don't need it, unless you want to build things.
     
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  15. HP3

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    If every market dip meant a recession, we'd be in one every quarter. Citing past bubbles doesn't make you a prophet, it just makes you good at hindsight. Being cautious isn’t the same as predicting collapse, and cherry-picking quotes doesn't change the fact that no one credible has called an imminent recession. Try harder.

    Like you have no academic sources, this is just BS speculation from you without evidence.
     
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  16. SamFisher

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    Man that looks like some longtime dipshit with a new Feb 25 id - do yourself a favor:

    https://bbs.clutchfans.net/members/strosb4bros.72516/ignore
     
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  17. Rileydog

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    Did you graduate high school? “spelt” is not a word.

    Well, not unless you are a toothless hillbilly.
     
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  18. Buck Turgidson

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    I done seens it.
     
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  19. Rileydog

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    use it in a sentence… whoever spelt it dealt it.
     
  20. AleksandarN

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    Or he is not even an American


    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spelt

     

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