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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. astros123

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    Why can't you just post on your real account? What sort of weirdo makes a fake username just to post on a basketball forum? Quit being a coward
     
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  2. basso

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    I do not believe the Russians can take Kiev. But they can hold their current winnings indefinitely. There was a window for pushing them out (check my many posts on this point in this thread), but that window is closed now. The weight of demographics and industry will inexorably shift to the Russians in the months and years ahead.

    so, Field Marshal Sam Kutuzov, what's the Urkainians Operation Bagration that will liberate Crimea and Eastern Ukraine?

    yes, I know I'm mixing my wars/invasions
     
  3. SamFisher

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    The "weight of demographics" - literally page 1 of the " Real Time Strategy Dad " playbook!

    In other words -" herp derp I nce dug out the manual for "Axis v Allies " when I was looking for old Playboy magazines in Granddads basement and I saw the USSR had a 9 rating in manpower vs 5 for Germany! "

    Make sure you play a few rounds of StarCraft before you make any future bold strategic commitments like this in the future.

    Attention - Putin Piss Babies- if "the weight of demographics" was like a real thing -unlike say the "Russia Hoax" which was in fact a real thing despite your disinformation otherwise - Russia wouldn't need North Korean slave soldiers & Chinese mercenaries to try to reconquer the parts of territorial Russia they managed to lose to Ukraine in year 3 of their 3 day war
     
  4. basso

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    you're dodging the issue. how does Ukraine push the Russians out of the Donbas and Crimea?

    my granddad was a strict 7th day adventist and lived in piney woods east Texas. he had neither a basement, nor playboy magazines
     
  5. Amiga

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    "70 percent of all Russian and Ukrainian casualties"

    Interesting. So, are all of Russia’s drones (imported from Iran) powered by Starlink?
     
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    Restrict the availability of Stoli?
     
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    I think our friend believes that Putin will just capitulate, and withdraw his troops. what about Putin would lead one to believe he'd take that tack?
     
  8. glynch

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    Regrading predictions. What happened to all the predictions that American sanctions would bring Russian to its kn
    As far as predictions whaetver happened to the great predictions of virtually all the mainstream pundits that Russia would collapse due to snctions seizing their international bank accounts cutting them off from the Swift payment system etc.

    Hey, I'll make a prediction in 2026 and 2028 and probably onward the Repugs will claim the Dems and Trump lost Ukraine despite Biden's four years. I hate Trump on virtually everything, but ending the war for the poor Ukrainians lwho were led down the primrose path by the US militarists and the bi-partisan neo-cons is a good thing. Disgusting, but somewhat satisfying payback for the lmore than 50 years of the Repugs claiming the Dems lost China, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc wars. Yes, the Ukrainians had agency, so particuarly their leaders do have a lot of the blame, too.
     
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  9. glynch

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    Potty mouth Sam, "Use your big boy words". I understand you are frustrated in life. Being a corporate lackey must suck.
     
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    Not being captured in a war of conquest by their neighbor is being led down “the primrose path….”

    When you are soooo anti war that you end up supporting a war monger invader is a terrible look for “progressives”.
     
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    People will go into histrionics concerning any end to the war that doesn't involve complete Russian defeat, total Russian withdrawal from all pre-2014 Ukrainian territory including the Donbas and Crimea and Russian reparations.

    Anything short of that will be labeled as a betrayal from the U.S./West.
     
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    imagine someone like Elon Musk calling Mark Kelly a traitor
     
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    Trump is a Russian Asset, there is no doubt.

    RussianWars.JPG

    I mean come on....lol.

    DD
     
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    If you followed the war, you'd know Russia attacked Ukrainian power plants and critical support infrastructure leading to outages in transmission signals throughout the country. The majority had no internet whatsoever. elon stepped in and offered starlink out of his own pockets not just for citizens to stay updated, but for the army to use. No individual has helped Ukraine more in the war - you're too filled with hate to admit it.

    It's even got it's own wiki page Starlink in the Russian-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia

    Now he's a Russian bot...
     
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    do you think that scenario is realistic under any set of circumstances?
     
  17. Amiga

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    My question was: Are Russia's drones also powered by Starlink?

    Musk says things that concern people. Essentially, given the unreliability and erratic behavior of the U.S. and Musk personally, it's essential that Ukraine and Europe secure alternative sat-based military communication. It might take years (unless solid alternatives are already available), but they have to be prepared with a reliable second source.
     
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    Your question was answered. Starlink was intended to benefit Ukraine only and did so initially, then Russians started obtaining them illegally and using them. Both Ukraine and Starlink have fought back against this.

    Ukrainian media reported that Russian forces may have obtained the terminals via Dubai[135] or from private Russian firms that purchased them from intermediaries.[133] SpaceX said that to the best of their knowledge, Starlink terminals had not been sold directly or indirectly to Russia.[134] SpaceX said it does not do business with the Russian government or its military, and Starlink said that its service doesn't work in Russia.

    Russia has tried to cut off and jam internet services in Ukraine, including attempts to block Starlink in the region.[10] Russian cyberattacks against Starlink appear to have been ineffective compared to other satellite services. Reasons advanced include SpaceX's speed of response and Starlink engineers' ability to defeat Russian jamming


    Obviously, they need an alternative - but there isn't one. This is the Musk edge, he's two steps ahead of the competition and has already begun scaling when they enter development. He provided a service no one else could and subsidized the cost. The other European countries will virtue signal, but the private ISP's aren't going to give away a billion to this cause. The Polish general admitted this weekend there were no alternatives close to being as effective.
     
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    I'm pretty sure Elon changed his tune when Putin threatened to blow up his satellites or use every means of cyberwarfare to cripple him. Having a shared line with Xi also helps.

    The likelihood of making all space flight impossible from space trash is low right now but it's good ol mafia tactics to show a willingness to get nasty in order to get the other guy to blink.

    Elon's half cocked in the China EV market. Even as byd takes his lunch, Teslas bottom line can't work without China.

    But he's gunna save murca cuz he loves it as an immigrant hurr durr!!
     
  20. astros123

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    The biden admin ended the Afghanistan war and changed their doctrine on drone strikes to cut back air strikes by 90%. The idea that somehow the Biden admin provoked Russia or led Ukraine into war is disgusting. Biden folks released intel about a impending invasion to detour Russians into not attacking Ukraine.

    Man what a utter embarrassment you lefties have become. The vast majority of Bernie bros have turned into MAGA or conspiracy theorists. Its sad what's become of the left wing as of late
     
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