1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

i keep wondering

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheBeastSystem, Mar 6, 2025.

  1. TheBeastSystem

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2020
    Messages:
    752
    Likes Received:
    589
    what baris development would have looked like sans jalen

    no jalen dominating the ball and jacking shots

    offense could have focused more on getting bari loose for 3s taken in rhythm

    keep wondering really what everyones developmental curve would have looked like sans jalen
     
    fryjol7 and HardenReturns like this.
  2. javal_lon

    javal_lon Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,701
    Likes Received:
    9,587
    Jalen hindering his development now? Lol
     
  3. Terror-Trips

    Terror-Trips Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2025
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    849
    Jalen has little to no bearing on Jabari's development.

     
  4. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,659
    Likes Received:
    19,183
    Or Bari doesn't really develop at all because Green is one of the very few offensive creators we have at the moment, and if we didn't have him, Bari would be forced into a role that doesn't really suit his skillset well.
     
    majicdonjuan and javal_lon like this.
  5. Arnel

    Arnel Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2000
    Messages:
    1,270
    Likes Received:
    1,519
    They need to use Bari more in midrange. Heck even the Pelicans announcers said they don’t understand why they don’t use him more in midrange lol.
     
  6. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    31,085
    Likes Received:
    48,655
  7. OremLK

    OremLK Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    20,071
    Likes Received:
    17,684
    Honestly I doubt it would be that different. The first two seasons we really had no other perimeter options. (F&cking KPJ, my Lord. Checked-out Gordon.) Last season he had a career low in shot attempts, still probably too many, but not drastic given the rest of the roster. This season he's been reasonably efficient.

    You can invent hypotheticals like "what if we drafted Mobley and Jalen Williams instead of Green and Smith Jr" or whatever. Or totally wild sh*t like "what if Amen had been available in the 2021 draft and already has three seasons under his belt". But that's not the world we live in, sadly.

    Sort of think both groups need to accept reality to some degree. The people who love him need to accept that he will never be a superstar (sorry). The "Jaters" need to accept that he's actually a good player and it will be difficult to find a better starting shooting guard for a reasonable price right now.
     
    jcmoon, Terror-Trips and javal_lon like this.
  8. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    21,312
    Likes Received:
    34,234
    Jabari has had plenty of chances and minutes to develop his offensive game, Jalen Green isn't some historic ball hog that freezes out teammates.

    I've been a defender and still think he'll be a really good player, but his 3 ball has remained inconsistent and his low post face up jumper has not been good enough for coaches to trust it. Maybe he should get more chances on the face up jumper, I think he should based on his shooting numbers, but that has zero to do with Jalen Green.
     
  9. javal_lon

    javal_lon Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,701
    Likes Received:
    9,587
    He'd be on the verge of becoming a perennial deadline trade piece if Bari got more shots.. His role is perfect for him at this point of his undevelopment ... That potential franchise player ship sailed about 3 weeks ago..
     
  10. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    98,874
    Likes Received:
    48,795
    16-17 ppg if they dump him the ball every time.

    He just ain't much of a scorer and electrifying presence.

    I am waiting for a 40 point game from him for ages and will wait another 3-5 years.
     
  11. CantStopJG24

    CantStopJG24 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2022
    Messages:
    2,881
    Likes Received:
    3,582
    Yea it's Jalen's fault that Jabari can't dribble for more than 3 seconds, fades away against smaller player and refuses to dunk.
     
  12. Jontro

    Jontro Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2010
    Messages:
    36,265
    Likes Received:
    25,341
    without jaylen we would've had paulo ranchero and be neck to neck with oklahomas for the top seed. we'd also be in line to meet the luka skywalkers in the wcf and we'd prolly beat them.
     
    Terror-Trips likes this.
  13. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    29,635
    Likes Received:
    10,098
    Jabari w/o Jalen is like cereal w/o the milk.
     
    Arnel, Terror-Trips and ApacheWarrior like this.
  14. Salvy

    Salvy Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    24,635
    Likes Received:
    36,143
    Would have been nice to see where Dante would be at sans Jalen....
     
    Terror-Trips and coachbadlee like this.
  15. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    29,635
    Likes Received:
    10,098
    If only.
     
  16. eliefor3

    eliefor3 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2019
    Messages:
    3,302
    Likes Received:
    4,656
    This made me laugh. Gotta commend op for finding a new reason to be mad at green
     
    cbass, highpost1388 and Terror-Trips like this.
  17. ApacheWarrior

    ApacheWarrior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2017
    Messages:
    10,349
    Likes Received:
    13,301
    We all know Jabari would be well ahead of the Durant trajectory.

    No need for a new thread on such woulda coulda stuff.

    Concentrate on important stuff like how much will it take to re-sign Tate
     
  18. topfive

    topfive CF OG

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    19,838
    Likes Received:
    39,462
    I'll bet Jalen is whispering in Ime's ear not to play Sheppard and Whitmore. It's the only explanation.
     
  19. Terror-Trips

    Terror-Trips Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2025
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    849
    Hilarious! :D
     
  20. TheBeastSystem

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2020
    Messages:
    752
    Likes Received:
    589
    not mad at green

    of course he's one of the only offensive creators we have because we started him #2 no punishment intended

    and we were intentionally bad basis first year and jalens second year and we had to develop jalen

    but reality is reality

    jalen is a self creator first and foremost he takes a lot of time dribbling around getting to find something and he's just not that good at creating for others and delivering them the rock

    bari does not have a great handle
    big deal i knew that already
    wasn not talking about developing his handle
    was talking about developing his off the ball game into becoming a great floor space and defender
    a great 3&d guy

    simply put

    there are players that put up numbers and look great on the court

    and are very entertaining to watch

    but all the time they take getting their numbers while searching and probing to make that spectacular play that is their specialty leads to too many possessions wasted with the team winding up with less than an efficient shot from players whose main goal has been to get out of the way or try to help said player make the great play by picking off his defender for him

    white chocolate
    marbury
    franchise
    russ
    wall
    gilbert
    tyreke
    many more
     

Share This Page