I think N.O would want Alpi and Zion and Alpi wouldn't be a good mix. Zion is an driver and slasher, he needs to have open lanes. I think Zion, Jalen and Amen would be great with a defensive, rim running center
Traditional rim running center like Capela would also be parked near paint. FYI - the beauty of Zion is he does not need wide open lanes, he makes his own path even with crowded paint. Think Jalen's game but he's the size of a rhino with ballerina feet + Amen's playmaking + rebounding.
LOL - not saying they or you did, just explaining how it is manipulated at the source, and there is a saying - garbage in, garbage out. DD
I already looked it up, and know the answer to my question. So I'm asking you since you posted the stat : What are its weaknesses? Does it overrate centers? Does it overrate guards? Does it over-emphasize any stat? How is it calculated?
Okay but explain why you doubt the data. Again, ESPN has no motivation to shade or fabricate data to make Sengun better than his play indicates.
Not sure why you feel the need cross examine me like this is my work. But I will play along. The metrics are self evident in the name - NET POINTS - defensive metrics usually slanted towards bigs that protect the rim, especially centers who play closest to rim. And offensive metrics on this site favors the most prolific scorers. The only player that you or any of the naysayers could question on either defense or offense net points is Alperen Sengun. The other players listed are self evident + match many fans favorite gauge, the infamous "eye test".
The metrics aren't self-evident in the name "NET POINTS". lol. That's part of the problem with closed stats like this that don't show you exactly how everything's calculated. You can say "we use a, b, and c in our metric". Great. How are they weighted? How is it calculated? Is it team-dependent or do you isolate the individual somehow - and if so, how? Dean Oliver is awesome, and I jumped all over his book back when he wrote it 20 or so years ago (and probably need to buy his new one). He was part of the reason advanced stats in sports was kindled for me back when he was on the old APBR boards. But I'm not a fan of stats that lie behind curtains. Stats such as TS%, EFG%, etc. we can understand because they're open. We know their flaws. Anyhoo... Offensive Net Points : Jarret Allen > Giannis Defensive Net Points : Alperen Sengun >>>>>>>>> the entire league. Defensive Net Points : Luka and Amen about the same, Luka > Dort. Don't things like that beg you to question "why?" instead of just posting a link and then saying "hey, not my stats, but there they are." Or at least ask "what is this really measuring and how is it actually measured?" Not to say Dean Oliver is "wrong" because he knows more about stats than I ever will, but whenever I see stuff like this and people just throwing up stats, I start shaking my head. Either that or I just don't understand something, which is entirely possible.
I never claimed to be an expert on Net Points, only stressed that ESPN has no motive to inflate Sengun or any other player's performance. You yourself do not understand the weightings for the metrics either because it is proprietary but had the temerity to infer you did. It is just as misleading how you pull + isolate the seeming outliers and ignore most of the conformative data which supports the "eye test". Just because you don't like the results don't take it out on me. The article I linked explains that this an all encompassing metric, hence the name NET POINTS. "It quantifies every rebound, shot, turnover and free throw and assigns credit and blame to the players on the court. It divides credit and blame based on the difficulty of the players' contributions to the success or failure of the team."
Zion Williamson paired with Amen Thompson will create the same spacing issues the Rockets have with Sengun. The Rockets need a better shooting PF than Jabari Smith Jr. Players like Kevin Durant, Cameron Johnson, Myles Turner, Naz Reid or Brook Lopez fit this bill.
Players like Zion and AD just make me more sure Lebron is the goat. He is the oldest player in the league, played the most minutes in NBA history, played 22 yrs without breams and somehow still healthier at age 40 than AD and Zion lol wtf. AD and Zion are total wastes of talent. I think both of then would be perennial MVPs if they werent always injured. At least in ADs case its just his genetics, but Zion is both bad attitude and genetics.
I think AD's career was fine. I don't think there's much he could do about his injuries, it's not like he was lazy or outa shape or anything. At his peak, he was in the 5-8 best player in the league range for a long time, 4 time 1st team all nba. I don't think it's fair to lump him in with zion who has done nothing since his 2nd year in the league.
I don't believe Rockets have a spacing issue, even with Amen-Alp. The Rockets have shooting issues, period. Rockets are bottom or near the bottom of NBA in 3P%, eFG%, FT%, TS%, AST%.
The shooting issue causes a spacing issue. Teams know the Rockets struggle from the three-point line, and that’s why you saw many teams running zones against them when VanVleet was out and Amen started games with Sengun. There is plenty of data showing it’s incredibly difficult to have a good offense in today’s NBA with two non three-point threats in your lineup. Zion and Amen are a difficult pairing to make work unless Amen develops a three-point shot over the summer.
Agreed. So glad the Rockets just added Roddy the Body and his career 30.5% from 3 ?!?! The mind boggles
