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[Official] Astros Spring Training Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Feb 16, 2025.

  1. htownrox1

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    I know it’s spring training and a small sample size but it’s getting hard to ignore Cam’s hot start.
     
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  2. Snake Diggit

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    Start him in AAA and tell him if he has an ops >900 after 50 pa he will be called up to be the everyday 3B or RF.
     
  3. right1

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    I like it, but if he is is going to win ROY and get us a 1st rd pick he might need those 50 PA's to put him over the top. Who are the favorites to win rookie of the year in the A.L. this year?
     
  4. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Slam Cam's power seems pretty effortless. Opposite field power.
     
  5. Snake Diggit

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    My top 5 would probably be:

    Kristian Campbell
    Jasson Dominguez
    Jacob Wilson
    Kumar Rocker
    Edgar Quero

    But yeah Smith could have a shot if Dana Brown thinks he’s ready, so that’s a good point and something I’m sure they’re considering. With that issue one thought I have is they can always have him break camp with the big league team and give him 200 pa to see how he does, and if he isn’t running away with ROY at that point they can send him down to buy another year. I also think Smith’s ROY chances would be quite a bit higher if he’s the everyday 3B rather than RF.
     
  6. right1

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    That's a good thought. Thanks for the names. I'll study up a bit on them when I get a chance.
     
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  7. Tomstro

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    I see Whitcomb had an error at 3B today

    Obviously no reason to be concerned but we are hoping he improves there.
     
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  8. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I trust Brown's opinion on where people should play.
     
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  9. Fulgore

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    Vegas Odds
    Dominguez +380
    Roman Anthony +550
    Kristian Campbell+800
    Jacob Wilson +800
    Jackson Jobe +900
     
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    So do I
     
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  11. right1

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    Whitcomb+5000
    Melton+10,000
    Dezenzo+15,000
    CAM SMITH+15,000!!!
     
  12. raining threes

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    Defensively it will end up better with him in LF than 2B.

    Altuve wasn't good defensively at 2B last year. His range was really bad.
     
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    ^^^^
    This
     
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  14. raining threes

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    Best case scenario.
     
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    RF is Cam's spot.
     
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    Episode 93 of breathing orange fire is up. We talk Astros prospects. I’m very mean to Keith Law. Will make @Nook sad. He shouldn’t listen. first half is what’s the point of a farm system and analyzes how Astros have done. Second part is actual Astros prospects.

    Listen, subscribe, rate, forward to Keith Law, enjoy.
     
  17. cmlmel77

    cmlmel77 Up all Night Watching Houston Sports
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    I wish someone would just do what Andrew said the current system doesn’t do and what you tried to do on the fly - create backward-looking rankings. Which systems have produced the most WAR by year/era?
    Maybe they have but I haven’t seen it?

    The fundamental issue you were arguing about is whether the current ranking methodology overvalues possible 5-war guys and ignores all the 2-3 war ones because rankers assume it is easy to develop those types. You say it is harder to continually churn out those guys than it seems. That makes sense to me, but regardless - this is knowable. We have the old rankings and the current WAR. I’m too lazy to do it, but someone surely will or has.

    If you establish that some systems are better at that than others, you can still evaluate all players individually, but then put a multiplier on the total system to account for aggregated probabilities based on past performance.

    Anyway, good listen. One day you’ll get back under 2 hours. :)
     
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  18. Wulaw Horn

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    Next episode tidy 1 hour. Or 3. Who knows. The last 3 episodes should all have been 2 episodes a piece.
    Pitchers. Then catchers and bullpen. Infield. Then outfield. What is a farm then how the astros are doing. The 6 weeks off hurt. Maybe we will start breaking them up and doing more episodes.
     
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  19. Snake Diggit

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    If Smith breaks with the Astros, 12% bb, 24% k, .240 ISO, 143 wRC+ would be the bar. Those would be roughly in line with Kris Bryant’s first 3 seasons. Astros should not be wasting his service time unless they think he’s gonna be badass from the get go.

    LF Altuve
    2B Paredes
    DH Alvarez
    1B Walker
    3B Smith
    C Diaz
    RF McCormick
    SS Pena
    CF Meyers
    Bench: Dubon, Caratini, Gamel, Guillorme

    I like it.
     
  20. Nook

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    Keith Law is a very good and nice person. If you want to discuss cooking recipes or board games, books or politics- he is your man. When it comes to prospects and player evaluating- I told him he has become an old man.
     

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