FVV is an incredibly impactful defensive player despite his size

I agree but maybe the Rox dont care. They said their only goal was to reach playin and hopefully make the playoffs. Anything else that happens is a bonus so maybe they'd rather see the team struggle and see if they can get past that and then address needs in the offseason.

They are already well ahead of schedule so I can see them invest in the young guy development more than care about season success as long as they meet their stated goals.

Stone is playing the long game and I respect that, this is the reason the Rockets have such a bright future while teams like Suns and Morey's Sixers look like trash.

 

Beware of extending FVV. Misses a lot of time, on the wrong side of 30, he’s been bad this yr. We should only extend Fred on a value contract.

 

If this is true, why are we starting FVV and Dillon and prioritizing Holiday and Tate over Cam and Reed? Ime is just a bad offensive coach and has worn this team out. He is a coward when it comes to FVV and Dillon. He only makes changes when injuries dictate them.

 

FVV had a bad game. Considering how the Rockets played without him, it should be easy to see that he's still incredibly important even in a down year for him. Rockets should only extend FVV on a fair market or value deal (i.e., how a team should operate on any signing).

 

I just don’t see how folks can’t see that our problem is at backup PG. Amen in the dunk spot was fine (although he should have been starting) to start the season. We built our record on a soft schedule and some luck with injuries to Ja, Doncic, and others. Moving FVV to the bench is not disrespectful it is what will get us ready for the playoffs. Amen needs the reps at PG and Holiday needs to sit his ass the rest of the year. Starting Amen, Jalen, Dillon, Jabari, Sengun solves our defense and rebounding problems with the starting five, gets us running right from the start, and strengthens our bench by adding a competent backup PG. We were ahead of schedule by winning 41 games last year. We are merely on schedule this year. It is time for Ime and Stone to get serious about building a contender, not sucking up to role playing veterans.

 

Despite your hatred for FVV, the Rockets offense is best when FVV plays. That is a fact. Thinking FVV is the problem, outside his bad games, is an incorrect view.

 

The Rockets just got a pansy ass schedule while FVV was out. Did the Rockets play better without FVV? Amen is the backup PG. So if the Rockets have a backup PG issue...

 

Also on schedule, the Rockets had played the hardest schedule when FVV went out. The Rockets record was built on beating good teams. Despite losing FVV for a few games, the Rockets are still second in wins against .500 and above teams. Every team plays good teams hurt. Other teams moreso than the Rockets as the Rockets didn't play the Rockets with FVV or Tari hurt.

 

The reason him being so impactful on D is because him being there takes all the pressure off guys like Amen and Jalen to handle playmaking (leaving energy for them on defense).

Amen has less energy to be the elite defender when FVV is out, and Jalen goes from solid to below-average when FVV goes out.

 

There are multiple interests at play, the Rox arent some hive mind with one goal or purpose:

Owner Fertita: Just wants more $$$, winning makes more $$$ so he probably want win now moves

Stone: Has a long term view. Pleased about the progress and didnt get a backup pg so Ime will be forced to play Reed.

Ime: Wants to win but is clueless/lazy on offense. Plays guys based on trust so hot players get benched as he brings in his "guys" FVV and DB no matter what (although tbf DB has deserved every min). If you pout and crash out like Cam, might as well get cardio in GLeague.

So we could have had a scenario where Stone stacked the deck in favor of Reed to get more PT and Ime still ignores that and plays FVV and Holiday anyway. I thought it was pretty clear Rox really needed a backup pg if we didnt get one there must have been a reason for it. Backup pgs are the most common player and we are flush full of assets and movable contracts.

 

FVV has a largely been successful in what he was brought in to do to help this team come along.

I’m open to extending him but want him as the back up point guard. We need more dynamic firewpower put of starters. Sengun is steady. Brooks has actually played really well offensively but can we really count on that and kind of is just slow and steady as well

 

There is no reason to wait until next year. We should be preparing our team for their roles next year. FVV should be coming off the bench, so that Amen can be forming synergies with the starters next year. If FVV is extended it should be for the backup role. We have no chance at contending this year, so get ready for next year and at the same time you can evaluate what missing pieces we need to add in the off-season. I know it is unrealistic to expect Ime to do the right thing regarding FVV. Of course FVV getting injured is going to force his hand with Amen at PG, but we will still lose more games without FVV, because of the sh*tshow we have at backup PG.

 

Only the head coach Udoka can make him a perennial backup......Udoka has to change his mind.

Fans, sorry, don't have a say in this.

 

Stone could have a say by not extending his ass.

 

FVV isnt an issue. Hes a role player. Hes not the savior and catalyst some make him to be though. This team will always be overly reliant on guys like FVV until a true star player emerges or is obtained.

 

FVV taking a backup role, lmao. Ime making FVV take a backup role, double lmao. These 2 are the most prideful stubborn Napoleon complex people I have ever seen. I almost forgot, add Stone to the mix, triple lmao combo breakeerrr! Stone is that frog that sits in the boiling pot and refuses to jump out.

 

Role player belittles his importance even though he isn't a star. FVV, Amen, and Sengun are the most significant positive contributors to the Rockets; it doesn't take a detailed view to see that. FVV and Sengun have weaker options regarding backups at their primary duties than Amen. It takes some hardcore biases not to see how the Rockets struggle without FVV.

I am for adding to FVV, Amen, and Sengun, and I'm okay with adding a PG to replace FVV. However, I am entirely against removing FVV from a guard-starved team and against assuming internal development will replace FVV's contribution and close the gap between the Rockets and the Thunder.

 

I think his importance on this team is inflated because of the lack of a star player.

I don't think Role player belittles his importance. I think it aptly quantifies his place in the league.

 

I don't understand this. Even if the Rockets add a star, he'll still play defense, not turn the ball over, and make threes. The way FVV adds value does not conflict with stars.

There are hundreds of role players in the league. Without quantifying "role player," one might think he's a typical role player like Dillon Brooks or JSJ, or even worse. FVV's value is indicative of players who are about to become stars or were stars cashing checks past their primes. FVV may be the best role player (or at the very least in the Top 10.