Actually it's gradient. It isn't a binary 0 vs 1 true vs false statement. Some players have help defenders hedge more towards them than others. Hence why there are literal metrics that calculate for "gravity,".
I will just say that I have only missed one or two games this year. Green has been an above average defensive player and has been putting in max effort. he is also slowly but surely improving finishing from basically everywhere on the court.
I mean, Jalen is a little taller, but he's lighter (less muscle mass) and has a similar wingspan, so they play like guys with similar size Neither of them are good defenders, but neither of them are garbage-tier Maxey scores more points, a little bit more efficiently, dishes about 50% more assists, and turns the ball over slightly less Even though Jalen has shown some improvement, I would probably be willing to trade him for Maxey straight-up. I'm sure Morey would ask for more if he's even willing to trade Tyrese at all though. Guess it would depend on the price.
Well that’s certainly your opinion. What’s happening on the court is Jalen is defending players his size or bigger like Ant Edwards, Lavine, Jaylen Brown. He had a pretty good defensive game against Brown in that JAN 27 win stopping Brown in key moments. We have seen him with timely blocks late in the 4th. So he is an above average defender unlike Maxey who gets bullied by bigger opponents including Green.
Yes I agree. He also needs to learn the cerebral parts of the game like Trae and Brunson. Knowing where to turn his body or pop up or lean in to get fouls. I like some of the things he’s improved on. A lot is in the details. I saw him use his body couple games ago against the Spurs feeling a defender on his hip etc. he also has a deceleration game now after a hard drive or 2 long slow step move. He needs to continue to work on these things. Some players take longer to develop but we see the improvements each year.
He's had some good defensive games... mostly stretches/moments moreso than a complete lockdown game (at least not very often for the latter). He's definitely improved though. I see some people in the GARM claiming he's still a terrible defender, and I see some of his bigger fans claiming he's actually good now. I tend to fall somewhere in between the two and feel like he's pretty average. I don't really care to quibble about whether he's a little bit above or a little bit below, it varies by game and matchup. Is he better than Maxey now? Maybe? Probably? But Maxey is also playing on a dumpster fire team right now, not on a good team under Ime Udoka, so who knows how he'd perform in JG's situation.
he’s been hit in mouth and bleeding and no call he’s been given a blackeye and no call so yeah if he got even a decent whistle his ppg would improve
I look at any improvement Jalen has made in two different ways: He's gradually gotten better at most of the skills he brought with him as a rookie. He's hitting the 3 more reliably, he makes a bigger % of his shots at the rim, he's blowing past people more regularly on his drives, he finds the open man when he attracts double and triple teams, and he's learned to play defense well enough to not get yanked off the floor That's all great. But then there's this... He hasn't developed any new skills on the offensive end, and let's face it, he was drafted for his offensive potential. His handle is still mediocre at best, and I've yet to see him introduce new wrinkles. You can't tell me that with a committed, Curry-like dribbling routine, he wouldn't be much improved in that regard. It's like he spends his off-seasons practicing 3s and dunks. He also doesn't seem to study enough video to always recognize what the defenses are doing to stop him and what options they leave open in doing so. How about studying why some stars always get those foul calls that he's not getting? It's not because the refs hate him, and much of that nonsense can be replicated if you understand what's actually happening. In short, Jalen has enough skill at this point to have some great games, but by not broadening his skillset, he's doomed himself to still having games when he looks pretty awful. He's almost certainly a future All-Star, but not a superstar unless he works a lot harder to improve his weak points. He's an occasional HIM, but not a reliable one.
Why do you make claims about on ball gravity and ignore actual data about plus/minus and on/off numbers? What does on-ball gravity mean? How does it affect a game? I can tell you what plus/minus means, can you tell what on-ball gravity means?
Happy but ..... The 3 point shooting has been much more consistent and that's really the key to his and the team's success, What I'd like to see going forward is better shooting from the mid range and finding a way to get to the FT stripe a little more often. .371 from 3 feet out to the 3 point line needs to improve. 134/361 The team desperately needs another shooter in the starting 5 - Jalen .359 & Brooks .393 are the only Rocket starters shooting above on the season. FVV was shooting an abysmal .270 until a recent hot stretch brought him to .339. If anyone has been a disappointment this year, it's Fred. (league average this season is currently .358 - a little lower than the past few) When you have Amen .274 and Sengun .228 in the starting lineup .... the margin for error elsewhere is Nil.
Jalen Green gets no respect from the officials. He constantly get mauled by the defenders, and the refs swallow the whistle. Without a doubt, he should be getting between 3 and 4 more FT attempts per game @ a minimum. But for some reason since he doesn’t “yelp” every time he get fouled. In his 2nd season he was getting to the line 6.1 times a game, now he only get 4 FT attempts a game. But he drives to the basket exponentially more often. Perhaps karma for when Harden was drawing fouls when a lot of the time there were none during his Rockets playing days.
Jalen is what he is. An above average starting caliber scoring guard with some great innate gifts but not necessarily the size or the intelligence/feel to use them (yet). He looked like he was going to be traded for whatever last season so credit to him for turning it around and becoming what I consider to be a good to great team player. His current best ability is his increased finishing around the rim which he preys on unsuspecting defenders lately. He has shown progress towards being a quicker Jamal Murray/Devin Booker type which is exactly what this team needs. Also like that his 20-30 point games seem to come spread throughout games now and not from sudden "burst" quarters where he scores 18 in a flurry. Also his defense, especially man to man, has been great. He's had some fantastic clutch defensive plays this year which has helped make us one of the better clutch teams in the league. Also like others have pointed out....for whatever reason gets no respect from refs. Work in progress overall but would've been a mistake to trade him for Bridges like so many of us wanted to last year (including myself).
I'm surprised so many older Rockets fans still complain about whistles. If you've watched both the Harden days and the Yao/T-Mac days, it's pretty clear certain styles get whistles and other dont. And the fact that Jalen is taking more 3s and is at the lowest rate for shots near the basket is a testament that he is recognizing this too. That said, the Rockets do have a guy who can carry on Hardens FT legacy. Amen's FT rate is at a level that with more experience and reps, can definitely reach 8+ FTA/G
Jalen Green has a lot of attempts at the rim. Harden also had a similar shot profile to Green. A lot of at the rim buckets and threes and little mid range. That is the modern NBA. Anyways statistically Green gets to the rim more than Amen. Green leads the time at drives to the rim per game at over 10. Amen at 7 per game. Green also has a higher fg% on drives.
Pretty cool that he's been keeping up with Mitchell lately in a lot of categories. The assists though... Mitchell is notching 60% more. Something for Jalen to work on.
