It's just a correction to what's been going on for the last 4 years. Honest question, how much do you think ILLEGALS have paid in taxes vs the services they've been rendered while in this country? The only reason they were let in to begin with was for the cheap labor and the downside is the common legal taxpayer has had to pay for things like English is a 2nd language (Which has killed education in this country, I know this because the older immigrants I work with talk about youngsters not learning English despite all of the money that's been poured into this program.) free healthcare etc... would you consider the policy adopted over the last 35 years to be a failure?
Straw man, also you have no data or links or any type of study that would back up your point. Always the same bad talking points, never any facts or figures behind you. Please stop using this alt account.
Bro, literally all you have here is anecdotal evidence, which isnt evidence at all. You think its bad because you already decided it was bad. If you really want to have a convo than you have to be willing to listen to facts people give you.
Are you really saying we aren't paying for ILLEGALS healthcare/Education? Because if that's what you're saying, you're wrong.
@HP3 the average undocumented person paid 9k in total taxes per individual per year. Undocumented individuals do not qualify for federal benefits but they contribute billions in taxes. They paid 30 billion dollars a year in just social security benefits even though none qualify in the past year. In a single calendar year undocumented individuals contribute more than a 100 billion in taxes https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/ Cultists are so clueless
By and large the amount they pay in taxes is way more than whatever they get in education, they also dont qualify for most social services, so they pay in more than what they get out. They do not get Medicaid.
That article is a puff piece. Gueswork based on a narrative. Where have we seen that before? None of this is tracked and documented. Housekeepers and cleaners are paid in cash. Construction crews are full of guys who take cash. They don't write it all down neatly so they can pay tax on it. How do you apply statistics to the untraceable? The article makes a mess trying to justify their guesswork in hopes bombarding you with information will A. confuse you B. Make them seem credible. Jose works in construction 200 days of the year. The average pay for that position is X. Therefore he files a tax application at the end of the year on exactly X money like a legal citizen would have to do. Because everyone's heart is the right place... utterly naive and shoddy Key in the article is "Using the method described in detail at the end of this report, we estimate that undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in U.S. taxes in 2022" "After calculating the income received by undocumented immigrants within each income band, we apply modified versions of our population-wide effective income tax rates to each of those bands."" Then you have the fact they own homes and rent when we have a housing shortage. The only legit part of the article, which is the predetermined direction they always wanted to go, is "Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase. " Create a path to citizenship for gainfully employed illegals with a sponsor so they can contribute. Those taking advantage of slave labor will have to adjust.
So you dismiss well researched estimates as "guess work" while providing no data of your own? This is how you lose credibility. GOOD DAY!
How Much Do Illegal Immigrants Cost the U.S.? - Newsweek Newsweek puts the estimated taxes paid at $30 billion. Even at $100 billion, they are net-negative $50 billion. That doesn't matter to the half of America that pays net-zero or less in taxes (just like the illegal immigrants). To people footing the bill, it matters a lot.
No newsweek did not put it at 30 billion. They cited a MAGA Subcommittee in the house of Representatives "report" released months before a general election. The study i provided was done by a non partisan DC tax firm that's apolitical. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting such low iq garbage. You're supposedly a "prosecutor" who eats up disinformation. Troubling for your defendants. Scary
Also big tell here is "Newsweek" is being cited as authority, to conjure up memories of a glossy magazine from the 1980s. That magazine basically went out of business decades ago and the brand has changed hands many times - you'll ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED to realize that it's now a right wing nutjob/qanon content farm/chum bucket
what is the source of that $100 billion? according to PBS. Immigrants contribute more in tax revenue than they take in government benefits
Illegal immigrants pay sales tax whenever they buy anything. Illegal immigrants pay property taxes whenever they pay rent. Illegal immigrants with stolen SS cards pay the standard fare of state and federal taxes. They do not get a refund. They do not collect SS and Medicare when they "retire".
On balance the biggest danger by far is foreign relations - you sure we want to pull the plug on NATO so fast? I get saving money but why not just ask other powers to pay in more $ and people instead of abandon the entire framework? And if you really want a break, why do it so fast? Phasing it out over 5 years say would be so much better. Trump has had some good instincts (border, trim budget, use unorthodox means of leverage) but lack of education and serious depth means he is going to be outfoxed by those who really know the game. If he truly trusts Putin to honor a ceasefire long-term with no US security guarantee, he is a true idiot.
Not Newsweek, but the FAIR study. Here is some information on FAIR from wiki: FAIR was founded in 1979 by Michigan surgeon and white nationalist John Tanton. The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) currently classifies FAIR as a hate group, citing among other things the organization's anti-Latino and anti-Catholic attitudes, its acceptance of $1.2 million from a racist foundation, the Pioneer Fund, its hiring as key officials men who also joined white supremacist groups, having board members who also write regularly for hate publications, its promotion of racist conspiracy theories, and the white supremacist beliefs of its founder. FAIR did a similar study in 2017 (and before), which CATO said is critically flawed. Merely using the correct numbers reduces FAIR’s estimated fiscal cost of illegal immigrants from $116 billion to $3.3 to $15.6 billion – and that is without touching their flawed static approach to counting how illegal immigrants impact the economy. This does not mean that the negative fiscal impact of illegal immigration is $3.3 to $15.6 billion annually, it merely means that using the correct numbers massively reduces their cost estimate. FAIR’s report argues for increased immigration restrictions as a way to address the federal budget deficit. However, it relies on poor methodology and contains numerous errors that undermine its credibility. Many years ago, I wrote a criticism of an earlier version of this report by FAIR. It’s disheartening to see that this later version written by different authors is even more sloppy and makes more errors than the older version. The immigration debate deserves higher quality research than this recent FAIR report.
these emerging economic developments, , have led to the Atlanta Fed projecting a contraction of the nation’s gross domestic product (GDP) of 1.5 percent in the first quarter, flashing a warning sign for the U.S. economy. recession has been defined as two consecutive quarters of economic contraction.
Traitor George, i wish that you'd stop lying. Trump/Bush, just like all other POTUS, give farm subsidies to farmers, probably one the the biggest Gov give-aways. also, Trump 1.0's ill-conceived trade war led to bail out $ for many distressed US farmers; that was before COVID
An analogy: Trump is a like a practiced blitz chess player. His persona is based on gut instinct, balls, and being bold and unconventional, but without any appreciation for experience or expertise. To a long-game player, he can put you on the back foot, cause lots of chaos, and appear like sparks of genius but the best biltz players will lose to any mid grandmaster in a long game. Geopolitics is long-game chess.
Get used to a lot more of "we broke everything, you fix it !" from these slovenly vampire chud people: Trump’s Sec of Agriculture Brooke Rollins says the solution to high egg prices for Americans is to get some chickens and raise them in your backyard.
