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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. Sajan

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    We go around and swing our military dick to benefit us…
    When it doesn’t benefit us or is not going our way, we show our true colors like yest.

    typical bully behavior.
     
  2. Amiga

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    Frankly, I was hoping that for a transactional guy, we’d get a transactional deal with mutual benefits - though there are real security risks to the U.S. in the long term when it comes to potentially using our armed forces to secure resources. After that, I was expecting a full exit from this administration anyway, but I was hoping they’d do it reasonably, in phases, to give Ukraine an option to switch strategies and time to get what it needs from Europe and elsewhere.

    The U.S. and Ukraine negotiated for weeks to come up with this deal, and both sides were ready to sign it. TF happened yesterday that derailed it? That raises so many conclusions, and none of them are good. They range from bad to horribly bad. The folks saying the U.S. just did a 180 and turned toward Putin aren’t off-base after that SS. But we’ll see in the coming weeks whether this is an abrupt exit or if they come back for a different transactional deal.

    ps They were both spinning Russian propaganda and airing personal grievances, including grudges over Zelensky’s visit to PA, which Vance sees as an attack on their campaign. These guys cannot let go of past grievances and do what’s best for the U.S. instead of clinging to their long-standing grudges.
     
  3. deb4rockets

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    Trump does somehow always find a way to lower the bar doesn't he? He's such an embarrassment to this country. Just when you think he can't possibly do something more stupid, disgusting, or embarrassing he does.

    Who did he call a governor? I missed that one.
     
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    If you would've told me a decade ago that bush era Republicans would be putin loving MAGATs I wouldn't have believed you but here we are.

    None of these people would have these views if any democrat did the same thing. They'd be protesting calling them a traitor but cuz its their orange Jesus they rehabilitate him.

    Sad
     
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    He's on a schtick right now where he calls Canada the future 51st state, so he calls their Prime Minister governor....even for him it's a special low level of class and professionalism.
     
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    China should move on Taiwan now. It will be so incredibly easy with Trump in power. Trump will trumpsplain how Taiwan doesn’t deserve protection since it is really just China anyway.
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    The media and spin have nothing to do with it.

    This entire encounter happened in full view of dozens of cameras. We all see the exact same tape.

    If you think Zelensky was the disrespectful one it's because you are unwittingly now in a cult and have lost the ability to reason.
     
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    Little midget comedian’s new bold new strategy is to badger and insult the hands that are feeding him? Bwahahaha!
    Hey you clowns in here, tell me one person on this earth that can bring peace and put an end to this war other than Trump?
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    What did he do that was badgering, insulting, or otherwise disrespectful?

    Can anyone please answer that question with a straight face?
     
  12. Phillyrocket

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    He apparently didn’t get down on his knees and say thank you multiple times as Vance insisted.

    The lack of decorum when speaking to another world leader is beyond embarrassing. Trump and Vance are wannabe tough guys who are only relatable to their incel constituents.
     
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    None of these guys have any ability to reason. That's why they supporter him in the first place. I understand why Trump is pro Russia. He gets billions from them and they have dirt on him. All the Russian nutlickers that do it for free is what I don't get.
     
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    You often belittle people because of their physical appearance? You call all 5'7" or 5'8" dudes midgets? Perhaps you are taller or fatter or have a smaller dick than Zelensky, but I know for sure his balls are 3X the size of yours. There was absolutely no badgering or insulting on Zelensky's part. On the contrary.
     
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    Our military dick is shrinking because it's run by a drunk whose boss is a neo Nazi drug addict with a botched dick job

    Anyway remember 20 years ago when the debate was whether or not the US should serve as "the world's policeman" - now it's how harsh will the rest of the world police us.

    The super ****ed up thing is that drugged up moron Elon is actually hurting himself. By turning Star link into a weapon of MAGA you're basically saying "don't use this service if you're not in the US and want to be subject to the whims of these terrorists"

    Guess what - people won't! They'll move to other options. Chinese, homegrown etc.

    Same goes for Jeff Bezos & the rest - would you use AWS etc if your data could be held hostage by MAGA?

    This whole Ukraine thing is an avatar for the absolute destruction of US economic hegemony & the vast social & cultural privilege we all enjoy because of it


    It will be gone fast and we will all miss it
     
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    Doubt its shrinking. The US still remains the only superpower that can invade any region in the world that it desires. China can't invade Argentina for example.
     
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