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Reed Looking More & More Like A Bust!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Imanimal, Dec 28, 2024.

  1. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    And you tell me you aren't a Reedster?

    Check Brooks and Curry Assisted 3 pt%.
     
  2. astrosrule

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    Idk what a reedster is so i can’t say if i’m one or not
     
  3. roslolian

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    Ok cant even man up and admit it.
     
  4. apollo33

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    That's a pretty poor excuse. The reason Amen was able to contribute despite dribbling the ball off his feet constantly last season is because he's a Swiss army knife everywhere else. He was still getting a ton of offensive rebounds, getting crucial steals and catch lobs when needed.

    The problem with Reed is that if he can't shoot he's essentially a zero or negative everywhere else. So yes he can handle the ball at a basic level, he can also pass a little bit, but it really doesn't impact the game. Not to mention his defense is just behind everyone else partly due to his size and lack of lateral speed.

    If you are a struggling rookie, the best way to make your mark is to do one thing really well. That keeps you on the court.

    When I watch him I feel like hes just going through the motions with no urgency and afraid to mistakes, there's no place for that on a competitive team.
     
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  5. astrosrule

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    I’ve never seen anyone use that term except you, so what’s your definition? I like reed, he’s the guy i wanted in the draft so i’d be happy to admit ir
     
  6. Terror-Trips

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    Jabari shot 42% 3P in college but shot 30% 3P as starter his rookie season. Does this mean that Jabari will always be a poor 3P shooter? Of course not because he goes on to shoot 36% 3P.
     
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  7. apollo33

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    That's not really the point. Jabari was honestly a huge negative on offense his rookie season, but he's 6'11 and plays really hard on defense so it's something. What exactly is Reed going to do with his size if he can't make an impact shooting the ball.

    I was very very high on Reed coming into the draft, I thought he was going to be in the ROY conversations by replacing Holidays minutes. He has really not shown me any thing that justifies minutes. He was actually doing okay in the beginning of the season, but it's been a bit of a down trajectory. He's gotta find his shot, or be aggressive elsewhere and use his ball handling or passing because whatever he's showing out there is very disappointing
     
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  8. coachbadlee

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    Reedsters say this all time.
     
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  9. ChillyPete32

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    Concluding that one guy is a better shooter solely because in his 213 attempts he has hit .2% more 3s than a guy with 102 attempts and deciding to chunk every other piece of relevant data means anyone remotely objective is not going to take anything you say about this seriously. Castle’s mom would probably think you are going too far with this.
     
  10. Terror-Trips

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    I do not disagree with you at all on all areas that Reed needs to improve. But Reed was better defensively than Jabari if you compare their rookie seasons respectively.

    Jabari rookie DRTG was 119 vs Reed DRTG of 107.3. Like Reed, Jabari was supposed to be the safest pick, offensively + defensively. Off topic but so interesting is that Jabari actually averaged more PPG, REB + stocks his 1st two seasons than he is this season.

    FYI - Reed was historically underrated defender in college. He is one of five players since 2014 to have a block rate of at least 3.0 and a steal rate of at least 4.5.

    The others are Tari Eason, Gary Payton II, Josh Reaves, and Matisse Thybulle (2x).

    https://www.nba.com/stats/players/defense?CF=GP*GE*25&PlayerExperience=Rookie&dir=A&sort=DEF_RATING
     
  11. Imanimal

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    Hard to believe the OP of this 52 page thread which should be considered good business (as it gets thousands of views) for ClutchFans has been banned from posting new threads for no reason at all except for responding cleanly to a guy who called him a nasty name. Free speech doesn’t exist in this realm and that is sad. I was the only one who held the Rockets to fire and called out players like Reed and Jabrari when they weren’t living up to their draft status and held Silas and Stone to the fire. If you don’t drink the kool-aid and go with the popular opinion then you will be banned by the moderators. Only hurts the site as my threads were always among the most popular as they weren’t puff pieces and usually turned out to be true when all was said and done. This is my fifth 50+ page post as many on this board have found my opinions interesting enough to respond to even if not in agreement. Everyone loses here when the moderators don’t allow freedom of opinion and speech on their site.
     
  12. ChillyPete32

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    I think Bobby is really the only one saying this. If Reed was playing better he'd get more minutes. That's pretty much tautological. Where there's probably disagreement is on Reed having a shorter leash than his draft position would generally warrant and whether that's impacting his performance to an extent. His leash is along the lines of a guy drafted in the 20s by a good team. If Reed was a top 5 pick playing for a team like the Wizards or Nets with no interest in winning and was going to get 20+ minutes a game this year no matter what I think he'd look a lot better right now. But that's just a gut hunch going by what I've seen from him in aggregate at all levels. There's no way to prove it.
     
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  13. astrosrule

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    lol, i've been called a SOF, a JOF, a jater, i don't mind adding another one
     
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  14. Nook

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    I wouldn’t. A defensive backcourt of Young and Green would be a problem in the post season defensively and Young just isn’t efficient anymore.

    If I’m trading for Young, I’m dealing Green for a different type of SG.
     
  15. roslolian

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    It was just an offhand statement dude Ok you win I will now say Castle is shooting 3s better than Reed for the 2025 season so far despite Castle being known as the bad shooter and Sheppard being known as the elite shooter. Is that better?
     
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    Green is an above average to elite defender not sure what you are on about.
     
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    … Well yes, this is better. It’s an objective and well-worded statement instead of the typical emotionally loaded drivel you post. If you stuck to posting like this instead of sooking about reedsters people wouldn’t be trolling you Jerry Rin.
     
  18. roslolian

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    You mean like you just believing somebody who said they guard Sheppard and Castle differently without any objective fact or data?

    At least I dont call people dumb just based on hearsay.

    Where is your evidence btw about Reed and Castle being guarded differently? You have none? Then stfu.
     
  19. Nook

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    No - Green isn’t an elite defender. Green is an improved defender but also benefits from having FVV next to him defensively.

    A back court of Young and Green would get exploited defensively in the post season. On offense there are some efficiency issues as well.
     
  20. gfab-babyboi

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    lol I don’t know where these takes come from it’s like the last time they watched a game was 2 years ago and they made their minds up on who he was and his production and can just make blanket statements

    “well he’s turnover prone”
    “He doesn’t play defense”
    “He needs to shoot at least 36% from 3 (when he does.. well he needs to shoot 38%)
    “His assist numbers are low”
     

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