1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Reed Looking More & More Like A Bust!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Imanimal, Dec 28, 2024.

  1. Smacktle

    Smacktle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    2,139
    Likes Received:
    1,156
    Reed needs to go to G league and spend some time building his confidence. Not sure why the Rockets won't do that!
     
  2. Smacktle

    Smacktle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    2,139
    Likes Received:
    1,156
    Is it wrong that I liked Corey Brewer?
     
    roslolian and ApacheWarrior like this.
  3. MystikArkitect

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    14,089
    Likes Received:
    22,894
    Eh. Tried telling him. Ignore function until he acts like an adult. Fills up this thread with insults towards a rookie every other post that is trying to integrate himself to a team full of vets and more established players. It's crossed over into this weird hate-obsession thing. I don't mind discussing players that I have high hopes for or not but when people start to sling insults, especially at a rookie like Reed, it gets hard to deal with.
     
    Bobbythegreat likes this.
  4. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,475
    Likes Received:
    31,943

    While i agree that minutes should be largely earned, having a super short leash with a rookie is counter productive, especially if you don't have anyone competent behind them. If Jalen, Sengun, Jabari, and Amen had that kind of short leash, they'd have basically never played and it would have stunted their development.

    Players can develop on their own despite coaching that has no interest in doing anything for them, but it usually takes a lot longer when it happens.
     
  5. glimmertwins

    glimmertwins Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2006
    Messages:
    6,840
    Likes Received:
    5,521
    Nothing wrong with that as long as you liked him for the role player/defensive specialist he was.
     
  6. topfive

    topfive CF OG

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    19,836
    Likes Received:
    39,458
    True, but which guys? That is the question.
     
    ApacheWarrior likes this.
  7. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,475
    Likes Received:
    31,943
    Honestly a lot of them should feel pretty stupid already given some of the things they've been saying. We have one moron in here claiming that Reed Sheppard has poor shooting mechanics.... that statement alone should be enough to bar that person from any basketball conversation forever.
     
  8. topfive

    topfive CF OG

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    19,836
    Likes Received:
    39,458
    Hey, I have a brilliant idea! How about Reed actually showing he can produce during those minutes Ime actually gives him? If he somehow managed to flash those Nash-esque skills even half the time he's on the court, there's no question he'd be given most of Holiday's minutes.

    The way I see it, Sheppard has just blown the best opportunity he's had yet at getting more minutes. With Van Vleet out for nearly an eighth of the season at this point, Reed has still disappointed during the time he's been given, especially on D. So much so that Udoka has started a lineup without a true PG and brought a lifetime retread like Holiday off the bench before even looking in Reed's direction.

    Bottom line: Great players will find a way to shine during limited PT. Sheppard needs to force Ime's hand by actually playing like a #3 pick.
     
    #828 topfive, Feb 24, 2025
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2025
    fckbandwagons likes this.
  9. topfive

    topfive CF OG

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    19,836
    Likes Received:
    39,458
    Same goes for any moron claiming Jalen is the worst starter in the league, right?
     
    duluth111222 likes this.
  10. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,475
    Likes Received:
    31,943
    I would take this more seriously if Holiday was better defensively than Sheppard.

    He's already shown what he can do with just a little bit of leeway and coaches that aren't looking for any excuse to permanently bench him..... and that's why they won't let him go back down to the g league and show them up even more.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,475
    Likes Received:
    31,943
    At the time that was said, he was. So no, one statement was true, the other is flat out absurd.
     
  12. Aruba77

    Aruba77 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 1999
    Messages:
    15,264
    Likes Received:
    18,470
    Was listening to the game theory podcast and Sam mentioned something I wasn’t aware of. The only small guard who has played well his rookie year in the last decade was Trae Young. He was adamant that it takes small guards much longer. It was a good reminder that Reed deserves our patience. If we trade him as part of a package for a star, fine, but I’m going to assume that he comes back next year and is a much better player throughout the season. I’m not panicking. I think it’s hilarious so many people are writing off this kid mid-way through his rookie year.

    I’m calling it right now. People will be writing Reed apology threads by the end of next season.
     
    Easy, 9baller and Terror-Trips like this.
  13. Terror-Trips

    Terror-Trips Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2025
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    849
    #3 overall usually has a longer leash because bad teams can afford to start or play heavy minutes for these high value picks. Not the case with a co tending team like HOU this season.

    A good example is bottom dwelling Rockets starting #3 overall Jabari Smith thru thick and thin his rookie season. Reed Sheppard will learn from this rough rookie season + will be just fine. Perhaps not an All Star but neither are any of the Rockets top 5 players.
     
  14. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    15,264
    Us being referred as contenders is not something I foresaw...
     
    topfive and Terror-Trips like this.
  15. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    15,264
    Reed isn't Cody Zeller yet.
     
  16. Roomba

    Roomba Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2017
    Messages:
    5,070
    Likes Received:
    17,553
    I'm just gonna leave this here. Aaron Holiday, as he is now, may be a little more effective than Reed. But Holiday is nowhere near the kind of player that Reed will become, and him struggling his rookie year won't change that. If Ime feels like Holiday has earned more minutes this season, so be it. I trust Ime's judgement more than any of us talking here on the forum. But I am willing to guarantee that Reed will very soon be a far superior NBA guard than Holiday is, and I hope I never need to watch Aaron Holiday suit up for us again--especially once R33d gets going.

    Hopefully I'll be able to come back to this comment in a season or two and pat myself on the back about it...
     
    Terror-Trips and shakes05 like this.
  17. shakes05

    shakes05 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2007
    Messages:
    708
    Likes Received:
    492
    I don't like when he volleys back and forth between Holiday & Reed...for a shooter, he needs to find his rhythm. Also, for a rookie that is struggling to find his shot, this can be very disruptive for his progress - which is starting to become evident...I see the potential in Reed, but I still would've drafted Castle over Reed...in my opinion, you should always draft the best available player on the board vs. positional needs...Portland Trailblazers are the perfect example of that (84 drafted Bowie over Jordan and 07 drafted Oden over Durant).
     
    Roomba likes this.
  18. Amiga

    Amiga Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    25,032
    Likes Received:
    23,293
    27.5% SAD. Is he going to get better?

    Player | 3P% | 3P Attempts per Game (Rookie Season)
    ---------------------------------|-------|--------------------------------------
    Reed Sheppard (Kentucky) | 52.1% | 4.4
    Reed Sheppard (Rockets) | 27.5% | 2.5
    Chris Paul | 28.2% | 2.3
    Jason Terry | 29.3% | 1.9
    Jason Kidd | 27.2% | 3.3
    Steve Novak | 33.3% | 1.1

    Steve Nash | 41.8% | 0.8
    Stephen Curry | 43.7% | 4.8
    Ray Allen | 39.3% | 3.6
    Klay Thompson | 41.4% | 4.1
    James Harden | 37.5% | 3.3
     
    Terror-Trips likes this.
  19. Imanimal

    Imanimal Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2019
    Messages:
    3,349
    Likes Received:
    3,830
    I agree. The Rockets decided at the trade deadline that they were not going to make a run for it this year…..therefore give both Reed and Cam 20+ minutes a game to develop. Makes no sense to be playing 37 year old Jeff Green over Cam who needs the experience and reps. Doesn’t feel like Ime and Stone are on the same page as Ime seems like a win now guy and Stone seems like a win in 3-4 years guy. Remember Stone held Silas back by not letting him play Wall.
     
  20. Terror-Trips

    Terror-Trips Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2025
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    849
    Even if Rockets not top 5 team this season, the roster was already jam packed and rotations set prior to drafting Reed. And Udoka is not the most patient HC, his goal is winning.
     

Share This Page