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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. Salvy

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    Where did you get your Trump statue? Asking for a friend....
     
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/NewMexico/s/EaFB8tnQcK

    When I examine these ICE officials kitted up in plane clothes and plate carriers while also looking like they'd get winded doing a 3 second jog across the front lawn it just reinforced my idea to reform law enforcement you just create a standardized cop uniform that looks like those 1800 London city police uniforms or the cop uniforms that were worn in St. Denis in Red Dead Redemption 2

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    The recruitment pool will transition from adult men who haven't grown out of their childhood fascinations of being a action hero to adults who have a sincere desire to serve their local communities.


    These ICE agents are the lowest common denominator of humanity. They are useless to society. Skilless.... Talentless....

    They seek these jobs to satisfy the empty pit they have inside where they have no self identity besides an algamation of Hollywood cop action drama and maga politics. Their brains are the embodiment of late stage capitalism brain rot.


    The kids they are harassing probably have better fitness standards for themselves. Probably have better literacy skills and are probably more useful to society.

    The fat tubby ice official is going to die of fatty liver from alcohol consumption in a couple of years anyways.
     
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  3. JuanValdez

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    Not ironic so much as overtly white supremacist.

    As we have unfortunately needed to focus on in recent years, treason has a very specific definition in the American context that wouldn't apply to FBI leakers any more than it did to President Trump.

    And by CHARGES they mean a lawsuit. I won't accuse Bondi of not knowing the difference. More likely, she thinks I'm too stupid to know the difference. The suit appears to be over state law that state police don't ask about immigration status for drivers. I don't know anything else about the case, but it seems to trod all over states' rights (that Republicans used to favor) and in my amateur view seems spurious and doomed to failure.

    The way this arrangement works is that New York pays for shelter for the homeless per a state law requirement, and then applies to the federal government for reimbursement per the 2019 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Humanitarian Assistance and Security at the Southern Border Act. The irony being that Trump signed this bill into law. And it's not just a clause in some giant funding bill. It's a discrete bill just a few pages long. The point of it was that ICE couldn't house all the immigrants they were detaining, so they would release them and they would become homeless and cities and states would incur costs as a result.

    New York says they were paid for the last batch, so I think clawing it back is going to require a lawsuit, which the Admin probably won't win. Maybe they can stop future payments, but New York is incurring costs and there is a law on the books that says they are owed, so I think New York could sue the federal government and force them to keep paying. At least until Congress abolishes the law. Meanwhile, homeless gangbangers will continue to be housed in New York -- either on the federal dime or the state's -- because state law requires it.

    All these Trump stooges keep trying to talk tough to get the headlines about what giant assholes they are. But their reach exceeds their grasp (at least until SCOTUS bends the knee). Biden couldn't so much as forgive a federal student loan and we're supposed to believe the courts will let Trump trample rough shod over the explicit powers of Congress and the rights reserved to the States?
     
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  4. Kim

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    Probably a violation of anti-commandeering. MAGA national government can't force local cops to enforce national laws, according to SCOTUS precedent. Progressive national government can't do it either. This happens with healthcare laws, immigration laws, gambling laws, gun laws...many things. I don't think SCOTUS will change here, but who knows.
     
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    US declares Tren de Aragua, other cartels are global terrorist organizations

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us-de...re-global-terrorist-organizations-2025-02-19/

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    WASHINGTON, Feb 19 (Reuters) - The United States on Wednesday designated Tren de Aragua, the Sinaloa Cartel and other drug cartels as global terrorist organizations, according to a Federal Register notice, a move that comes as President Donald Trump steps up immigration enforcement against alleged gang members in the U.S.

    The notice issued by Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the groups pose a risk to U.S. national security, foreign policy and economic interests.

    Trump, a Republican, issued an executive order after taking office on January 20 that called on officials to evaluate whether any criminal cartels or transnational gangs should be designated as terrorism groups.

    Trump earlier this month delayed a move to impose steep tariffs on Mexico and Canada over what he said was insufficient cooperation to thwart illegal immigration and trafficking of illicit fentanyl.

    CNN reported this week that the CIA was using drones to carry out surveillance in Mexico. The covert operations had not been previously disclosed and Reuters was unable to verify the report. Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said on Wednesday that U.S. drone flights over Mexican territory were part of a collaboration with the U.S., adding that there was nothing illegal about it.
    more at the link
     
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  8. Commodore

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    So rapists get to go free and escape justice just like Trump, huh?

    Cool.
     
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    It's not really the total numbers that's different, but the how that is part of the plan. But from straight up numbers standpoint, President "Deporter-in-Chief" Obama, who many Latinos protested against, outpaced Trump by far in deportations per year and in total. I had friends who worked at DHS doing massive undercover employment raids back then - it just wasn't this giant publicity stunt that the administration put all over the news. Nowadays, it's intentional by the Trump admin to try to scare and deter. He's even building on deportation programs created by Obama, like the SAFE neighborhoods deportation program, but taking it to the extreme. We'll see how things play out over the next few years. I think it's more bark than bite at this point, but it's for sure more active than the Biden admin was.
     
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    If it actually functions as a deterrent (we will see when the weather changes), then it seems to be working.
     
  13. Kim

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    Maybe it's a combo of all that plus illegally shutting down asylum. I'm not saying the latter is a terrible policy, but it's just illegal from a separation of powers Constitution perspective. So maybe knowing that, it's like let's do this illegal thing first and have the courts strike it down later, but by then when the border is re-opened, everyone will be afraid because we're sending people to El Salvadorian prisons and Panamanian hotels (if you were a migrant getting deported, hope for the latter). That's one possibility. Another possibility is just Trump and his men doing king stuff and seeing what sticks.
     
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    Homan was an Obama hire. It was only recently we went away from pragmatism to extremism in regards to illegal immigration.

    I've definitely noticed the Home Depot parking lots less active. Will be interesting to see construction/housing numbers over the course of the next 6 months.
     
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    In an alternate universe in which the president was competent.

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    President Trump said that he would be deporting over 20 million illegal aliens.

    Are we to believe that the statistics, that have been kept for many decades showing that immigrants commit less crime are all wrong?

    Are we to believe that all of these 20 million - the majority of which are women and children - are criminals?

    Or - is the simple spin control by focusing on the criminals, and not the children that ICE is taking out of school or the women and hardworking men that are not criminals - and have been in the USA for a long time and are being sent away?
     
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  20. Commodore

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    One problem for Dems is Biden and Mayorkas allowed so many violent criminals into the country. Trump can continuously arrest and deport them and generate positive headlines and political capital. Deporting the ostensibly sympathetic fruit-picker is far downstream.
     
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