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Trump signs executive orders limiting power of agencies

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, Feb 18, 2025.

  1. Air Langhi

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    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/feb/18/trump-signs-executive-order-allowing-attorney-gene/



    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/ensuring-accountability-for-all-agencies/

    This is insane if you read through this. So Trumps decides who to prosecute? So he decides if the SEC goes after someone?
     
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    I read it and just had to shake my head at the absolute horror of Trump being the deciding expert of how to interpret the law. That in itself is a joke. His non-educated interpretation of the laws of our country always make him innocent of crimes, and anyone he dislikes guilty. The scales of justice are about to spread wide open, with Trump sitting on top shi*ting down on people.

    Trump, his billionaire "friend" and grifting defense lawyer as AG, and the Project 2025 author as head of OMB taking over as judge, jury, and prosecutors.
    The script was already written and like the liar and con Trump is, he pretended he knew nothing about it a few months ago.

    Here's a few excerpts from an article about Project 2025 founder Vought running the OMB.........

    It’s hard to imagine a more dangerous and unsuitable candidate than the lead architect of the Project 2025 manifesto, whose harmful agenda is already evident in the destructive actions of the Trump administration.

    Vought’s sole aim is to replace the expertise of career employees with political appointees, willing to skirt the law to deliver for the rich and powerful rather than serve the public interest. He is also hell-bent on a deregulatory agenda that would only serve the interests of polluters and other deep-pocketed special interests, while harming people’s health and polluting the air and water. The entire notion of good government for the people is called into question.

    Like Musk, he too believes that the president can completely supersede congressional authority and disregard laws and the US Constitution.

    “We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA can’t do all of the rules against our energy industry because they have no bandwidth financially to do so."

    Vought has repeatedly voiced strong support for these kinds of actions to decimate federal agencies and force a deregulatory agenda that benefits only powerful corporations. Like Musk, he too believes that the president can completely supersede congressional authority and disregard laws and the US Constitution.

    “We want to put them in trauma.”

    With Vought in charge at the OMB, these destructive efforts would likely be turbo-charged, with rapidly escalating impacts on people across the country.

    https://blog.ucsusa.org/rachel-clee...mb-congress-should-vote-no-on-his-nomination/
     
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  3. mvpcrossxover

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    Republicans, this is your king ("president")?
     
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  5. Air Langhi

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    This is a push to get the Supreme Court to further trash the Constitutional limits of presidential power and end independent agencies created by Congress--agencies created specifically to be isolated from presidential meddling. Will the Court go along with it? Yes, yes they will.
     
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    Yes, because only he was elected. Unelected fiefdoms (most notably the DoJ Southern District of New York) have acted like they answer to no elected leader for far too long. That's why they all resigned in a huff when given an order they didn't like from their elected superiors.

    Trump can delegate decision authority, but he isn't required to, so any delegated decision is effectively his own. And he shouldn't delegate any decisions until he can be sure the person isn't acting against him.
     
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    meddling from the person who was democratically elected is a bad thing?
     
  9. Rocket River

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    Revolution will be brewing

    Rocket River
     
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    Yup. This is written to directly address what Kavanaugh has already put in writing himself about the power of the presidency. The Federalist Society people running this White House know what they are doing here, and I do think they'll likely have success if they can get this up to SCOTUS fast enough.
     
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    we loved it when Biden was throwing shitte at the walls to see what would stick legally, now that Trump is doing it we're not such big fans of the approach . . . .

    "I've got a pen, and I've got a phone."
     
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    Hmm, I wonder why Trump would this...

     
  13. mvpcrossxover

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    USPS is a government service.

    Do you say the fire department lost so and so money last year?

    Do you say the military lost so and so money last year?

    It's a service, not a company.
     
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    Who appointed him?
     
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    Why bother to call out the hypocrisy if your response is just to join in on it?
     
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  16. Air Langhi

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    Biden didn't try to overrurn the power of independent agencies or fire inspectors or get rid of ethics requirements.
     
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    We've been seeing questionable expansion of Presidential powers for some time, going back many administrations. This does seem to be on a very different level.
     
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    Government should NEVER be compared to a Private business
    Their currency is not money but service

    Rocket River
     
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    Oh sure, Biden had businesses all over the world, and fired every prosecutor and inspector general looking into his crimes, as he plotted and planned with the richest man in the world to take money from veterans, those in need, and those he considered expendables in his quest for riches. He idolized dictators and authoritarians, making bribery legal again, and called his Western Allies the true threats. Yeah, the similarities are so striking I feel like I've been awakened by your insight.

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    you must have missed all the setbacks Biden experienced in the courts . . . here's a helpful review

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-dealt-biden-historic-series-defeats-2025-01-18/
     

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