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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. hooroo

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    copied from putin's playbook. i've read about the leader of russian orthodox church being is a putin crony. his personal wealth is speculated to be in the billions. There's also funny business with the serbian orthodox church with their ties with putin, neo-nazis, funding terrorism against kosovo.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Please check your sources. What you are saying isn't verified by anything that I've seen.
     
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  3. dmoneybangbang

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    Utter lies. You believe Russian intelligence over US intelligence.
     
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  4. astros123

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    What a utter disgrace of a human being @Nook .I can't believe this guy is the US president
     
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  5. astros123

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    Every single weapon sent to UKR has their serial numbers tracked by the OIG and they have a database of all the weapons sent. @Tomstro is an idiot not surprising

    https://oig.usaid.gov/our-work/ukraine-oversight
     
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  6. Mr.Scarface

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    Your Ukraine takes are WORSE than your Dusty takes....and that says ALOT. I guess you think Ukraine started the war, like Trump does?
     
  7. Newlin

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    At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump threatened to send American troops to fight alongside Russian troops against Ukraine. Trump sees Russia as our partner and Ukraine as the enemy. Absolutely disgusting.
     
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    Which is the story Putin told Trump to begin with.

    Which Trump will use to sell Ukraine down the river.
     
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  9. Space Ghost

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    If one can set aside ragey emotions and focus on reality, we can ask hard questions. First, is America really number 1? Do we owe our people first and foremost over every other human on the planet? Or are we expected to share?
    Secondly, as being number 1, its easy to fend off 2 or 3 separately. However combined, its a much bigger struggle. Is 2 weak enough that we can battle 3 too? I think people underestimate greatly underestimate China.
     
  10. astros123

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    Why do you losers always paint this binary option of supporting Ukraine or supporting Americans. Trump eliminating the CFPB, eliminating the NLRB, cutting Medicaid spending, eliminating ACA coverage for 35 million dollars not help Americans in any way.

    I dont know why braindead trolls on the right pretend that suddenly trump is going help Americans if he cuts off Ukraine. Braindead individuals.

    Trump is doing nothing to help cost of living issues for Americans other than destroying their lives
     
  11. hooroo

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    Foreign aid isn't given away for free. It's either dumping old resources for a premium or pre-emptive that saves money (eg, avoid refugees) in the long run.
     
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  12. No Worries

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    One has to wonder if Trump vets all of his Ukraine comments with Putin first.
     
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  13. mvpcrossxover

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    Poland shouldn't have started WW2 i guess.
     
  14. Amiga

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    Poll: Which is most likely to happen first and second?

    a. The US says Ukraine started the war.

    Oops, been there, done that. Let’s try again:

    a. The US and Russia agree to a deal favoring Russia (Ukraine gets no security guarantees and loses land).
    b. The US and Russia agree to a deal favoring Ukraine (Ukraine keeps most land and gets security guarantees).
    c. The US and Russia agree to a deal slightly favoring Russia (Ukraine gets limited guarantees but loses most land).
    d. The US lifts sanctions on Russia before any deal.
    e. The US sanctions Ukraine for rejecting the "perfect" US-led peace deal, citing global peace and prosperity.
    f. The US leaves NATO, calling it the cause of the war and an outdated liberal institution.
    g. Some European nations form a compact to fund Ukraine’s defense.
    h. The US sanctions or tariffs these nations for the same reason as (e).
    i. Russia launches a large-scale attack on Europe due to a combination of (e), (f), (g), and/or (h).
     
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  15. No Worries

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    Alternatively, did Trump just have a senior moment?

    Obviously Trump misspoke or is dangerously uninformed or dementia was kicking in ... None of this flatters Trump.
     
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    I really don’t believe either


    lol
    Mostly No

    They’ve lied about too many things too many times.

    If the govt was your girlfriend or worse your wife lying like that… long gone.
    Cheating ass lying b****
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    I guess you missed the investigation into all of that carried out by Republicans. You are incredibly gullible.
     
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  20. Francis3422

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    How could he say this?

    I am no fan of Trump, but I try to just avoid politics, but this is truly disgusting.

    Ukraine should’ve just capitulated? What happens if China and Russia want to invade the United States? Do we just have to make the deal?
     
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