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[ESPN Insider: Ric Bucher] One will have to go

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by corby, Oct 19, 2004.

  1. m_cable

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    If it came down to a choice I would go nuts if they chose Taylor over Howard. Don't get me wrong, Mo has a place on this team and I wouldn't dump him for trash, but his place is not on the starting lineup of this team if it wants to contend. Mo bogs down the offense when he has the ball, because he always holds it for a couple of seconds before he makes his move. And even when he does give the rock up, he seems to be always trying to thread the needle. He always tries to do stuff that he just doesn't have the goods to pull off. Just off of three preaseason games Howard has shown better passing skills than I've seen out of Mo-T the last few years.

    Mo's role should be off the bench scorer. T-mac should get first crack at the ball when yao is sitting, but Mo should get the second one. And it Mo starts lighting it up like he can do sometimes, then they got to keep feeding him the ball. So if we end up trading Howard, it better be because we're bringing in a starting PF to replace him.
     
  2. SirCharlesFan

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    I think that we should keep both of them unless a deal comes along that allows us to fill a major hole on our team (ie starting PG). MoTay is easily the best offensive option we have off of our fairly thin bench. Imagine how much the second unit would struggle to put the ball in the hoop without MoTay on the court. I don't think Tyron Lue and Mt. Mutombo can get the job done offensively. Unless Nachbar finds the shot that we've never seen--we'd be in deep trouble. Once again, I'd like to emphasize that, without his large contract, Mo Taylor would be one of the most beloved Rockets. The man can put the ball in the basket and shoots a high percentage doing so--something not many Rockets outside of Yao have been able to do over the past couple of years.
     
  3. pasox2

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    Howard is a keeper. Mo makes too much. I don't see either one being traded this season. Too bad, I'd love to axe Mo, but I don't think anyone will ever take him.
     
  4. adai

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    Wasn't Mo Taylor on the unprotected list, and Bobcat didn't
    pick him up? That says a lot about Mo's market value.
     
  5. BigM

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    if an opportunity arrises where we get a good defensive-minded rebounder for one of the two then sure i'll go for it but we sure can't afford to just dump one of them for nothing. mo doesn't rebound but there were times last year when he carried the offense.
     
  6. outlaw

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    call up RudyT and offer Mo + Spoon for Brian Grant
    Grant is more of a Van Gundy player.
    Rudy was always a fan of Mo's offensive skills.
     
  7. mogrod

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    I don't find it hard to believe that MoT can and probably will be moved this season. Every season there are a few players out there, just like MoT, that thier teams feel they are getting paid more for what they are worth to that team. We really do not need Taylor like we did last year. When Yao sits, TMac will have the ball in his hands 100% of the time to either score or create a good shot for someone else. Taylor's role is really obsolete now as a bench scorer but he could help a few other teams out there. I really like what Howard has showed so far this preseason and he will be fine starting and having one of a numerous guys coming in behind him depending on the matchup. I can easily see him Mo being traded for another over-priced player who just fits this team better. I would be amazed if we were to get something that would fill a real hole on the roster though.
     
  8. bejezuz

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    Mo T only gets traded if there's a decent offer for parts that fit better than he does.

    Yeah, we lack a banger power forward, but the only team I know that is loaded with too many banger 4s is Denver. They certainly aren't gonna trade us Camby or Nene for MoT.

    I don't think Mo will get traded this year. I just haven't seen somebody put together a decent scenerio. The only team that I can think of that needs scoring from the 4 is Cleveland, and they don't really have anything that will make our team better.

    Next year will be different though. Next year, Mo's contract will be in it's last year, and sometimes that adds value to a player. We just need to find the right partner and get the right parts.

    Dynasties aren't built in season.
     
  9. Tranmerica34

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    Will someone post the entire article? The link only goes to the sign-up page and not sure I want to give Chad Ford $40 bones for ESPN's crappy mag and subscription.

    thanks
     
  10. pasox2

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    Yeah, for next year I'd love to send Mo to Seattle for Vladimir Radmanovic and Antonio Daniels. Both those guys will be coming up and are not long-term there and likely to be traded.

    We could use a tall three that can shoot and rebound, and a defense-minded point that takes care of the ball. We could give each one about 5 mil if they'd take Mo.

    We could do it now for VR, AD and Jerome James for say, Boki and Mo; but I don't think Seattle will bite. They have to develop that Swift kid, and Fortson is there to rebound when he's not hurt or sulking. VR is being called on to deliver points, but he's complaining he's not a pf.

    Can we give Seattle cash or picks or something?
     
  11. m_cable

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    Before the Fortson deal, I would have thought it would be a possibility to move Mo to the Sonics. But as is, I really don't see Seattle bringing in another high priced PF.

    If Radman, gets his playing time eaten up by Fortson and Rashard and he is looking to go to another team when he's a FA, then I think the Sonics might bite on a Vlad for the TE and a #1 pick. At least they'd get something back instead of losing him for nothing.
     
  12. leehoang

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    Trade Mo. Howard can stay.

    For now...
     
  13. joolut

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    No way in hell they trade two assets, both underpaid, for an overpaid, bench payer. Besides, VR has better averages than MoT. Why would they every do that?
     
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    I wonder if Boston would bite on a MoT/Gaines/2nd round pick for LaFrentz/Welsch.

    I know LaFrentz has a big contract, but he is a 7-footer that can hit jumpers and block shots. IF what Bucher says is true, than LaFrentz is the type of PF we are looking for.

    Welsch would also be a real nice backup for TMac.
     
  15. m_cable

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    LaFrentz. Come on. I'd rather keep a healthy Mo with his contract than take on a Lafrentz coming off a season-ending injury with a larger contract.
     
  16. NJRocket

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    how can the worst pound for pound rebounder be the best anything in the league?
     
  17. Mr Boo

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    The keyword is "BACKUP"
     
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    i dont see why everybdy is sold on howard on this bard he hasn't proven anything i dont think.if mo was on alot of them teams iam pretty sure his number would look the same are better.something just says soft to me about howard .I hope he prove mr wrong.
     
  19. reptilexcq

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    If Rox have to trade one of these 2 players....they better get rid MO TAYLOR, that guy sucks. I said this before even last year...i expect him to be traded cuz he has no fundamental whatsoever in his game. When you give him the ball...he has one thing in his freaking mind..that is to shoot it even when being doubled. He's too single-minded and is hurting the team concept of fundamentality.

    On the other hand...Howard is way WAYYYY better than Mo. Simply because Howard play fundamental basket and don't force anything.
     
  20. Stack24

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    I will agree and say that maybe Mo will be the one traded but i will still say even though i don't like the fact that he is soft and doesn't rebound, he still brought us back in games during last season with his instant offense and i don't think anyone can really look past that.
     

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