Reed is a rook with limited minutes, learning new position + still figuring out speed of NBA. And neither of the others mentioned are close to ELITE 3P snipers - every single player shoots under 40% 3P. Below are this season 3P% for these players: Reed Sheppard - 27.3 3P% Aaron Holiday - 34.3 3P% Fred VanVleet - 34.4 3P% Jabari Smith Jr - 35.4 3P% Dillon Brooks - 38.9% 3P Cam Whitmore - 31.3 3P% If anyone is acting in bad faith it's you - "can shoot the 3" and elite shooting 3 are two very different things.
The other dude said non shooters not elite 3 pt shooters. You are the one in bad faith inserting your own argument to that poster to make me look wrong? Go ahead quote that other poster what did he say??? go on quote him! If you cant see elite 3 pt shooters in his post you just full of BS dont post to me ever again.
You responded to MY post which was referencing elite 3P shooters. I know my post in this thread + multiple other threads have repeatedly cited Rockets need for ELITE 3P shooting. Why would anyone insist on Rockets bringing in non-shooters or below average 3P shooters??? This is both a specious + silly argument. You are more than welcome to stop responding to me whenever you prefer, your theatrics are unnecessary.
NO you responded to my post that was talking with another poster who said Stone brought in non shooters alongside Sengun and Amen. You directly quoted my post pretty clear who is in bad faith here.
I responded to @baubo in affirmation of Rockets need to acquire "shooters". You were the one who responded to me that Rockets have already have "players who can shoot 3" and then listed a plethora of below average NBA 3P shooters. @baubo definition of shooters + my delineation of ELITE shooters conform moreso than your list of below average NBA shooters. You are bad faith defined.
So when you say shooters you mean elite shooters? Elite shooters dont fall from trees. Might as well blame Stone for not having Luka doncic. Rox are shooting worse from 3 cuz they get defenders who fit Ime Udoka style. Players like FVV, DB, Amen and Tari, these guys get more PT under Udoka than somebody like Ryan Anderson. Aaron Holiday shot 40% from 3 in atlanta. Ok blame Stone he is shooting 34% this season? Jabari shot 42% in college. Blame Stone he is 36% in the NBA? Reed Sheppard shot 50% in college. Blame Stone he is shooting 27% in the NBA? Stone did get elite shooters they just stopped shooting at an elite level in the NBA. But to act like he did nothing is the definition of bad faith.
Dorian Finney-Smith, Cam Johnson + Zach Lavine qualify as elite 3P shooters + have been available last 2 seasons. DFS + Johnson as good or better a defender as Jalen and/or Holiday while Max Christie, Caleb Martin, De'Andre Hunter + Brandon Ingram are near elite 3P shooters who were also traded this season. Aaron Holiday is not a starter, has not averaged 40% 3P with Rockets when he did start + played heavy mins last season, currently shooting under 35%. Both Bari + Reed college 3P% has yet to translate to NBA. Rockets need elite NBA 3P shooters + have needed this skillset the last 2 trade deadlines. These missed opportunities in past 2 trade deadlines definitely on Stone, it's in his job description as GM. And Stone never even tried trading for Luka even when he was available because of his myopia for specific Suns players. Stone has not improved the Rockets the last 2 trade deadlines, this is fact. The Rockets need better 3P + just more efficient shooters overall, this is fact. To state otherwise or to distort discussion into some personal litigation is just specious, and quite frankly, boring. I'm only here to talk Rockets basketball.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2025_totals.html#totals_stats::fg3_pct Brooks at #53. Jabari at #114. Doncic #124. FVV at #130. Also fwiw, the Rockets could've had top 3pt shooter this year Luke Kennard, also a career 44% 3pt shooter, in a trade with the Clippers 2 years ago. But decided to take on Danny Green's expiring instead. So yeah, Stone doesn't need to trade for Doncic. He just need to not be allergic to anyone who can shoot.
The Thompson Twins are funny as heck. NBA is going to enjoy these 2 talented brothers for long time. https://www.si.com/nba/pistons/news...kes-comical-jab-at-amen-thompson-01jm55pgfr5b
Kennard is a bad defender, last year Cam and Holiday were our best shooters and those 2 didnt even get a lot of playing time in the rotation. In fact Kennard himself despite being a 44% 3 pt shooter only plays 22 mins and only has a 9 ppg average. So even on his own team he doesnt play a lot and doesnt get a lot of shots despite shooting 44%. And lets face it, the Rox approach was working, at least it worked well enough to get 2nd seed before injuries hit.
Rockets went 0.500 last season and are on pace to win 50 games this year. Whether he makes a move at the deadline is irrelevant IMO. Whether you agree or disagree with his approach it has gotten results. The only reason we are in a tailspin is because we lost our depth due to injuries, if everybody was available there would be no place for DFS or whoever else you said.
I like how you totally ignored my list stating how utterly wrong your statement about needing Luka to improve 3pt shooting is, and then insult the intelligence of our coach by saying he won't play a guy playing 22mpg for the 2nd best team in the West.
Aaron Holiday was a career 40% 3 pt shooter last year how much did he play? Even this year Jeff Green only saw play when Jabari and Tari are out. Shooting is just not a high priority for this team we don't play our best shooters a lot. Rockets also didnt bring back Reggie Bullock, another 40% 3 pt shooter from last year. Of course NOW we have injuries to 3 guys yeah Kennard would prob see play. But the reality is Sheppard was drafted for that shooter/backup pg role Stone wouldnt get people that may bypass Sheppard.
I would draw up a concept of a Amen vs Ausar 3 point Contest and Skill Contest (HORSE) Throw in a Dunk competition. Milk that ish.
Maybe this is just bias but I think you can see Amen has managed to separate himself from his bro. And this is from someone who wanted Ausar more than Amen during the draft. They are both really good defenders but Amen seems to be slightly more athletic and more coordinated than Ausar. He also has better vision and a better offensive repertoire. Basically he is just more talented IMO.
I think coming into the draft, Amen was rated a little high for that exact reason--just seemed to have a little more burst and vision. I'd like to posit another reason as to why it seems like Amen is improving at a faster rate: Ausar had to miss a lot of practice and game time from his scary blood clot condition, and Amen got to play the whole time after coming back from his ankle sprains. I think Amen will continue to improve at a crazy rate, and perhaps Ausar will find his way here one day as well (after learning how to shoot)
Of course he was probably told to be safe and not get injured. And possibly to have a little rest before the second half the season starts
It's funny how you're just making up new stuff when your old arguments keep getting demolished. First you say the Rockets have lots of good 3pt shooters, despite official stats say they are 28th in the NBA in 3pt shooting. Then you say the Rockets need to trade for a star like Luka if they want to be better at shooting 3s, despite him being ranked in the 100s in 3pt% among players. Then you say Luke Kennard cannot get minutes with Ime because he can't play defense, yet he's getting 22mpg for a team that's is superior to the Rockets, and only slightly worse on defense (7th vs. 4th). And now you say there's no way Ime plays good 3pt shooters, because he's playing Reed Sheppard over Aaron Holiday despite Holiday being a better 3pt shooter. I'm still baffled at how you can be a fan of basketball and watch NBA games and be so weirdly out of sync with reality on something as simple as shooting 3s. It's really not that hard of a concept. Make more 3s, score more points, win more games, fans be happier. Especially if you are a fan of Amen and want him to be successful.
Those players we got are all shooting badly this season, doesnt mean they didnt shoot well the previous seasons. I never said we need to get Luka if we want to have good 3 pt shooters. I said might as well blame Stone for not getting Luka if you are blaming him for not getting elite 3 pt shooters. Luke Kennard getting 20 mins is the same as Aaron Holiday getting 16 mins last year. Kennard is only contributing 9 pts for the Memphis grizzlies. That tells you even Grizzlies dont use him a lot considering he is the highest 3 pt in the league. Sheppard was supposed to be our Luke Kennard, not sure if you understand Stone drafted Sheppard for his 3 pt shooting. Of course Sheppard has shot horribly so far but if Stone knew Sheppard would flop in the NBA he wouldnt have drafted him.
