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The Official President Trump Thread - Second Term Edition

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Scarface281, Jan 25, 2025.

  1. dobro1229

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    What is the cancer that Elon is removing??

    How is removing government professionals who oversee our nuclear weapons cancer?

    How is that that the department of education is a cancer?

    Why is Medicaid a cancer to you??

    Why is it that tax cuts for the wealthy the cure to cancer??

    What is 400 million dollars to Tesla to military cybertrucks a cure to cancer to you??

    I could go on and on and on but you guys are not serious, and do not want to wake up to the reality that Elon and the other billionaires that kiss Trumps a$$ are the cancer…. And they are not in the business of curing that cancer. They are in the business of playing people like you for a fool to continue to rob you blind.

    If you really were serious about solving waste fraud and corruption you would have been here a long time ago talking about overturning Citizens United or championing actual fixes such a HR1 back in 2021 that Joe Manchin and Kirsten Senima killed.

    Elon Musk is the richest man in the world and is playing people like you for fools.

    (and for the record I’ve always rooted for Elon to use his power to do good things. Helping solve climate change, funding Neurolink tech that could one day help my wife be able to walk right again after her brain injury, etc. Musk could use his power and wealth to do good, but he also has the ability to destroy which is what he is clearly doing now and playing people like you for fools along the way.)
     
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  2. Space Ghost

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    RFK going after Monsanto and the sugar cartel. Leftist rage

     
  3. strosb4bros

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    "People like you" //What exactly are you implying here? Do I need to get the ADL to show up at your door? I won't be silenced by dog whistling racists like yourself.

    We can apply the example of Twitter to all these agencies, where a 70-80% workforce reduction did not hamper operations and only exposed how many people were performing useless roles in a bloated organization. The actual salt of the earth types who contribute to smoothly running operations didn't go anywhere. It's called streamlining. Private firms have done it since the beginning of time. Why should government use Windows 95 software, have retirement files in underground tunnels that limit processing speeds, pay for empty office spaces where only 3% of workers come in etc.

    The strategy of gas lighting others into believing no one overlooks nuclear weapons, when it's just a small portion of useless middle men and replicated positions, is no longer viable. DOGE's transparency negates it.

    As far as cancers go, Dept of Education is the biggest one. Nothing will deplete your serotonin more than going line by line and looking at what money goes towards to. 50% of public school kids are illiterate. Lowest test scores for the highest spend per student globally. Bloated administrator salaries who only care about procedure while the actual teachers are underpaid. I know a 20 something teacher with a masters who has to live with her parents teaching hard sciences to Gen Z'ers... everyone does. Focus on core educational skills and paying ACTUAL teachers livable salaries... not the fluff. The truly curious can explore the fluff on their own time. Punish students who are violent and insolent, don't keep coddling them. The sooner they learn accountability the better .You'll get better quality interactions, an actual learning process, and a desire to do well from students. If a student doesn't take to education, show them trade skills and how to behave, don't waste time drugging them. But the bureacracy can't push common sense. Their incentive is to overcomplicate so their kickbacks, ego trips and web of lies don't come to light. We're all victims of our decades long privilege. Need to go back to core essentials which comes with the added benefit of lowering the cost of living.

    The US had an expansionist mindset where they were trying to save the world while ignoring the rampant issues in their own backyard. Reform has long been needed where we retract, look within, and get back to the basics DOMESTICALLY before even considering any of this junk --


    The Department Of Education terminated 89 contracts worth $881mm.
    One contractor was paid $1.5mm to “observe mailing and clerical operations” at a mail center.”

    $10M for "Mozambique voluntary medical male circumcision"
    - $9.7M for UC Berkeley to develop "a cohort of Cambodian youth with enterprise driven skills"
    - $2.3M for "strengthening independent voices in Cambodia"
    - $32M to the Prague Civil Society Centre
    - $40M for "gender equality and women empowerment hub"
    - $14M for "improving public procurement" in Serbia
    - $486M to the “Consortium for Elections and Political Process Strengthening,” including $22M for "inclusive and participatory political process" in Moldova and
    -$21M for voter turnout in India
    - $29M to "strenghening political landscape in Bangladesh"
    - $20M for "fiscal federalism" in Nepal
    - $14M for "social cohesion" in Mali
    - $2.5M for "inclusive democracies in Southern Africa"
    - $47M for "improving learning outcomes in Asia"

    Collateral damage along the way is part of reform. We must rip the bandaid off as opposed to a drawn out slow peel. I really dont' care if Tesla gets a few more contracts (as they have a solid product) because nothing helps out the middle class and poor more than reducing wasteful spending and cutting out middle men.
     
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  4. HP3

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    Your rant boils down to cherry-picking budget items you don’t understand while pretending ‘cutting the fluff’ magically fixes systemic issues.
     
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  5. IBTL

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    Lol shut the **** up b****. You're an alt account anyway.
     
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  6. IBTL

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    Moron.
     
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  7. jo mama

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    drama queen post right here.

    1) nobody is calling for the racist DOGE kid to be "banished".

    2) nobody is saying democrats are "perfect" and there are plenty of examples of dems holding themselves accountable when they do wrong.

    3) you still seem to be more upset about people calling out DODE kid for saying racist and horrible things then you are about the actual racist and horrible things.
     
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  8. jo mama

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    drama queen.
     
  9. Space Ghost

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    You are incorrect. I know very little about the DOGE kid's racial comments. All I know is that he allegedly said racial things. That is literally all I know.

    So I am not sure how you have come to this conclusion that I am upset about the DOGE kid, one way or another, when I am one of the least informed people on the subject. Unlike you leftist, I am not a subject matter on literally everything in the political spectrum.
     
  10. jo mama

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    not only were the DOGE kids racist comments posted in this thread, but you responded to my post where i quoted them.

    should someone who says the following be working in the federal government and having access to the things that DOGE has access too? should musk and JD vance be defending this kid and bringing him back after he resigned? is this the kind of person who should have access to americans private information?

    "Just for the record, I was racist before it was cool"
    "You could not pay me to marry outside of my ethnicity."
    "Normalize Indian hate,"
    "I just want a eugenic immigration policy, is that too much to ask."

    you dont seem to be bothered by DOGE kid at all, rather youre getting upset at people who are calling out musk and vance for defending him. you actually accused me of having a "preprogrammed narrow world view" because i said the racist DOGE kid should not be working in government.

    more hyperbolic dramaqueen-ism from you. nobody is claiming to be a "subject matter on literally everything in the political spectrum".
     
  11. dobro1229

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    People like you implies you are one of the 77 million that voted for and worships Trump as a pagan god. It has nothing to do with race and it’s really telling how weak of a person you are to even go there. It’s worse than any crying liberal that gets worked up about the cultural issues they care about. Very cry baby type of response.

    As for the substance of your response, I’ll just say that most of your gripes are more about your personal political beliefs rather than any fraud or criminal use of funds. Trump can use his power to influence Congress to legally reform most of the spending that he politically doesn’t like but instead decides to go about making changes half hazardly which then affects the areas that are important.

    Again…. This is not fraud. It’s just spending you don’t like politically. It’s not a reason to impose on me and the majority of Americans a corrupt authoritarian government that throws everything out the window just to enrich the billionaire class. It’s an unnecessary overreach to something that could have been solved by a few weeks of budget meetings with Congress and a new spending bill to fund the government.

    Given that Mike Johnson has led the house now for a couple years now and all of this spending was allocated recently by the Republican majority, where are your calls to replace him as speaker, and vote out Republicans in the majority who allocated these funds??
     
  12. Space Ghost

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    I really don't care if he said that or not.

    Further, you have propagated every leftist lie in good faith. You are a NPC. You do not think for yourself. You rely on other people to tell you how or what to think. If I were to take anything you propagated, I would have to dig deep...because you're a leftist propaganda tool. I can go read every leftist site and you would align 100% with them.
    In other words, anything you feel like passing on, it's highly likely full of nonsense and hyperbole.
     
  13. jo mama

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    we know.

    which ones?

    what is that?

    do you have any examples? and couldnt someone say the same about you?

    do you have any examples?

    lots of projection going on here...look at all the dramaqueen-ism you have been engaging in the last couple pages of this thread.

    as for the racist DOGE kid, his comments are out there. nothing to be hyperbolic or nonsensical about in terms of the basic facts.
     
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  14. tmacfor35

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    **** Dan Crenshaw.
     
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  15. strosb4bros

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    You say this like it's not a decades long issue both Dems and Republicans have run on. I don't know of a single presidential candidate who didn't suggest it was needed, and most promised they would try to tackle it. If it was as easy as a few budget meetings with Congress, it would have been done. Instead the trenches grew thicker with weeds and more bureaucratic logjam, an excess of organizations and personnel to deal with the same issues.

    When employees on a corporate card go to Michelin restaurants, fly first class instead of coach, gift themselves Vacations to Jamaica under the guise of social research ... and an audit finds out what the funds have been going to, they are terminated due to fraud. They could use your explanation in a lawsuit, but they would be laughed out of the court room. "It's not fraud, it's just spending you don't like". When dems use semantics to skirt around the law or the honor code, the other side will do the same. It's why politics sucks.

    Johnson is a career politician. I don't expect much from him or any politician on either side when it comes to going above and beyond or looking beneath the surface. You need outsiders, you need RICH outsiders, flaws and all, but it's a process that needs to be done.
     
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    https://www.theguardian.com/busines...fs-the-presidents-bond-market-threat-is-worse

    Much less remarked upon was a throwaway comment about the US’s financial obligations, which underlined the fact that tariffs are far from the only way in which Trump is jeopardising economic stability.

    “We’re even looking at Treasuries,” the president told reporters. “There could be a problem … It could be that a lot of those things don’t count. In other words, that some of that stuff that we’re finding is very fraudulent, therefore maybe we have less debt than we thought.”

    The suggestion was that opening up the US Treasury’s data to Elon Musk’s “department of government efficiency” team had identified a money-saving wheeze: why not walk away from some of America’s debt obligations – a “selective default”, as economists call it.

    Like so many of the serially erratic president’s pronouncements, this one had to be “walked back”, as the Americans call it. Kevin Hassett, his economic adviser, stressed the next day that Trump was referring to other payments that the US Treasury had been making, not its $36tn (£28.6tn) in debt obligations. Hassett suggested the Treasury “had been “sending money out without flagging what it was for”.

    Yet just entertain for a moment the idea that a US administration might decide it could unilaterally default on even a small portion of its debts. The result would be catastrophic. Because of the dollar’s status as the world’s reserve currency, the yield on US Treasuries – US government bonds – is perhaps the most important benchmark in global financial markets.

    If investors suddenly began demanding a higher yield – in effect the interest rate – as insurance against the risk they would not get their money back, the effects would ripple through the trillions of dollars of other assets worldwide priced with reference to supposedly super-safe Treasuries.

    Hassett made clear this is absolutely not an outcome the saner elements of Trump’s administration were aiming for. Indeed, the treasury secretary, Scott Bessent, has said the president wants to bring down the yield on 10-year US government borrowing costs.

    Yet as a result of Musk’s crazed takeover of the financial plumbing of the state, the US is already welching on its obligations – moral and financial – all over the world.


    etc...
     
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  19. ThatBoyNick

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    Hippy leftist have been protesting Monsanto for decades, what are you talking about
     
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    goddam hippies
     

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