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[ESPN] Van Gundy Happy With Rockets

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  1. jgreen91

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    such a lame article, I mean you read the title and it says "van gundy happy with rockets", yet, the entire article is pretty much bucher smashing the rockets and telling you how horrible they are.

    I read the insider article, more of nothing but negative. I'm really getting sick of that guy.
     
  3. Mr Boo

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    I'm in total agreement with you their buddy....geez talk about the glass being half full...
     
  4. Mr Boo

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    oops i meant to say half empty...lol
     
  5. Hippieloser

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    Could somebody post the article? Let's live dangerously here. ;)

    My work computer has a lot of problems with the ESPN website.
     
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    BEIJING, China -- There are no bags under their collective eyes, their suits don't have that borrowed-from-an-older-brother look and they haven't hitched a ride en masse on Alonzo Mourning's ankle -- but give the Houston Rockets time, for in a lot of other ways the team is becoming a mirror image of second-year coach Jeff Van Gundy.

    Maybe that's why Van Gundy ended the Rockets' week-long exhibition tour of the People's Republic of China in the most inexplicable mood -- giddy. When a post-game translator addressed him as "Mister Coach" after the Rockets' 91-89 exhibition loss to the Sacramento Kings, Van Gundy went on a five-minute riff. "I can't tell you how much I enjoy that," he said, smiling. "My players call me a lot of things but you can be sure it's nothing as nice as that. I want to take that home with me. I'm coming back over just for that. Now what was the question?"

    That got a laugh from Chinese and American reporters alike, which then prompted Van Gundy to keep going. "This is great," he said. "I'm even getting laughs. When I'm at home, I'm usually dying."

    Van Gundy acting light-hearted after a loss? To a Kings' team that doesn't look all that impressive itself? With severely overwrought expectations for this year's squad since the blockbuster trade that landed Tracy McGrady? The same Van Gundy who has been known to snarl after a bad practice?

    "The trip was a positive in so many ways," he explained, "but there's no doubt the negative was for basketball."

    Add the time lost to the 12-hour flights over and back, the absence of familiar facilities and food and the extracurricular events and jet lag that pre-empted normal practices, and the week was basically a goodwill tour. It did wonders for Chinese-American relations. The Rockets clearly appreciate more deeply star center Yao Ming's status -- think Bill Clinton, Michael Jordan and Robert DeNiro rolled into one -- among his 1.3 billion countrymen. The dividends for the NBA's popularity and presence were such that commissioner David Stern already is talking about bringing over regular-season games.

    But prepare the Rockets to improve on last year's 45-37 record and first-round playoff exit with seven new faces? They might've been better served taking a week off.

    "It was a great experience," said forward Juwan Howard, "but it's not the best way to get ready for the season. I don't know how much we learned about ourselves."


    Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming looked good together in China.
    This much was apparent: While McGrady and Yao form one of the best inside-outside combinations in the league, the deal to get T-Mac has left Houston with myriad major holes. Free-agent rookie David Hawkins is the closest thing to a true two-guard in camp and free-agent refugee Charlie Ward is the starting point guard. This is the same Ward who the San Antonio Spurs were ecstatic to land as a free agent last January, only to watch him get outplayed by Devin Brown and Jason Hart. The same Ward who also went 0 for 4 on set-your-feet, eye-the-rim 3s in China.

    Howard is the leading candidate to start at power forward, even though he's not a good fit next to Yao and Van Gundy took long looks at both Maurice Taylor and Scott Padgett.

    Jim Jackson, a great find last season when he averaged a career-high 6.1 rebounds, is now being counted on heavily to have another standout season. He looks up to the task but at 33 that's hardly a lock, especially shifting assignments to accommodate McGrady.

    The bench, meanwhile, is a treasure trove of one-dimensional players. Tyronn Lue can stay in front of most point guards and is an underrated three-point shooter, but he's not going to make a difference on offense. Taylor can score and make clutch shots but not defend or rebound. Dikembe Mutombo is a good practice matchup for Yao but his defense isn't much more intimidating than his offense, a long fall for a four-time Defensive Player of the Year winner. Ryan Bowen already is a team favorite with his hustle plays, but opponents will funnel jump shots to him all day long. Bobby Sura is not expected to return from back surgery until mid-December. Bostjan Nachbar still looks all too often as if he missed the hotel wake-up call.

    This, in short, is a team that won't give Van Gundy any trouble with how it behaves and still give him plenty of problems in how it actually plays. While the Rockets' braintrust believes Ward and Lue are enough at point guard, they're already looking around for ways to combine their $5.9 million salary-cap exception and existing personnel to improve at power forward.

    “ My concern is not how Yao and T-Mac play together. It's how the rest of our team fits together around them. ”
    — Jeff Van Gundy,
    Rockets coach
    For now, though, the focus is on Yao and T-Mac. Sure, they're great. The question seems to be, just how great? Yao has added noticeable upper-body muscle and posted deep easily and consistently against both Brad Miller and Chris Webber. He is still susceptible to double teams, though, as his five turnovers in 27 minutes losing in Beijing demonstrated.

    McGrady, the newest Rockets superstar, was a much more difficult read. He is so smooth and has such great vision that the offense already flows considerably better than it ever did last year. His chemistry with Yao is obvious. On one possession in Shanghai he drove the baseline and then lobbed the ball to the rim for Yao, a play negated because of a foul on the drive. The next possession he made the same move, threw the same pass and Yao deftly laid it in with his back to the basket.

    No team will have a better go-to play than the Rockets' high pick-and-roll with T-Mac and Yao. The worst they'll get is McGrady raising up for an 18-footer. But the overall defense raises doubts about how many games they'll be close enough to win on a final possession. Ward, by the Rockets' admission, can't defend the league's starting point guards without help. The addition of McGrady means Jackson, whose strength allowed him to compensate for the speed he's lost and compete at small forward, is going to be matched up with a lot of shooting guards this season. So far, Van Gundy's impact on McGrady's oft-critiqued D hasn't been noticeable. Porous perimeter defense puts a premium on having agile shotblockers, which doesn't describe either Howard or Yao.

    "My concern is not how Yao and T-Mac play together," Van Gundy said. "It's how the rest of our team fits together around them."

    Getting the Rockets to play together shouldn't be a problem. Last year's Houston squad had cliques and a certain level of immaturity that drove the button-downed Van Gundy crazy, even though he said, "They competed and did everything I hoped for." The problem is that this year's team, while much more likely to stick to the game plan and not short-circuit itself with mental lapses, just doesn't have overwhelming talent beyond The Big Two.

    If Van Gundy is nervous, though, he sure isn't showing it. Legendary for his pessimism, he has the pompons out, at least as of now.

    "I like our guys very much," he said. "I like their character. They have an idea of who they are."

    Which is -- they're Van Gundy guys. That means they'll be better than the sum of their parts, just as last year's Rockets were ultimately less than the sum of theirs.

    Which sum ultimately proves to be bigger is what we're about to find out.
     
  7. dugtzu

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    is it just me or does anyone else tire of the liberties reporters take in quoting someone? the paraphrasing does no damage here but ive seen too many instances were it has...

    end rant. back on the subject at hand...:)
     
  8. pippendagimp

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    How do clowns like bucher get promoted through the ranks and make it to ESPN writer and Yao biographer? I mean it surely isn't based on merit or talent ability. Who did this guy know or provide a service for? I mean just a decade ago he was a nobody beat writer for the lowly Warriors and not even for one of the major Bay Area papers, but the obscure Contra Costa Times.
     
  9. Willis25

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    I agree - I can't believe this is "insider" stuff -

    last time I checked you only play five guys in basketball - and if you have the two best players on the court, most nights that should be enough
     
  10. gucci888

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    Guys actually pay for this stuff?

    "Howard is the leading candidate to start at power forward, even though he's not a good fit next to Yao." :confused:

    "Free-agent rookie David Hawkins is the closest thing to a true two-guard in camp." :confused:

    I could swear we traded for a two-guard named Tracy McGrady, but I could be wrong.
     
  11. cloudnine

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    I can't believe how incensed everyone get when a reporter has the gall to write something that you don't want to hear.
    I mean honestly, the Rockets lineup has holes? reeeeeeeaaally.
     
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    Odd how the "Kobe, Shaq, and other" Laker teams never seemed to get previews slanted like this. I also found it odd that he dismissed Mutombo out off hand like that. He's looked impressive so far, and it's hard to say the Rockets haven't upgraded the back up 5 significantly. The Juwan bashing also seemed to be a bit much.

    The Nachbar diss was warranted.

    Evan
     
  13. Hippieloser

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    Thanks for posting the article.
     
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    Of course the Rockets have holes in their line-up.

    Of course, Bucher can write anything he wants, but when he says something stupid, why can't people say so?

    This statement implies that Jeff did not think Howard is a good fit so he took a long look at Mo and Padgett. That at the least is misleading, worse, I think, it is completely wrong.

    Lue is not a difference maker on offense? duh!! Tell me something I don't know. The guy is a backup PG for x-sake. The song on Mo is old. Bucher apparently repeated the old line on Deke without seeing him play at all this pre-season.

    Honestly, if you say something stupid, excuse me for calling you on it!
     
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    I'm not worried about our D. JVG knows how to implement a good defense. Period. That will always keep us in games. And if T-Mac and Yao can finish in crunch time like their salary/expectations say they should, then the Rox will be something special.
     
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    That sounds like a pretty good bench to me.
    A shooter: Lue check
    A scorer: Mo T check
    A inside defender and rebounder: Deke check
    A hustler: Bowen check
     
  17. Willis25

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    to be fair - I got my insider status as part of my ESPN fantasy sports invovlement (I certainly didn't care about most of the articles)
     
  18. wireonfire

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    I think we should get a Murphy kind of PF, who is long and has outside shot. One big problem for Yao is he can't defend Dirk, Camby and Sheed at outside.
     
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    I didn't mean it to be a knock on you. But just that ESPN is charging people to read some guys opinion, especially an opinion that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
     
  20. gucci888

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    Yao doesn't need to guard these guys. Camby, maybe, but his shot isn't that threatening.
     

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