The correct answer is that we should not give him an extension at all. We should see how he plays next season then sign him to a contract based upon that performance. Everyone who says he deserves more than $20 million per year on an extension is basing that upon his potential. Jabari has the potential to be an excellent defensive player and a 40 percent 3-point shooter. He is neither of those things currently. He has never been an average starter in the NBA. Not even close. He is useful but not great defensively. He was shooting .354 from three this season prior to the injury. He was at .363 last season. He does nothing else offensively other than shoot 3s. A lot of those are open looks as he is the 5th option among the starters. Those percentages are really mediocre. Jalen Green gets a lot of hate on this board with similar efficiency. Jalen brings a lot more offensively than Jabari does. I think Jalen still has the potential to become an all-star. I don't believe Jabari does. I like Jabari's potential and hope he comes back and plays well. I hope he continues to grow next season. Extending him based upon potential would be the same stupid move Stone made this past summer with Jalen Green. It limits our options. We're better off watching Jabari play next season and matching his contract to his performance next year. He will be a restricted free agent so we can match any offer he receives. Not many teams even try to make offers on restricted free agents. We should also preserve the option of including him in a trade for an upgrade should the right target come available.
I don't know what the Rockets offer, but assuming Jabari finish the season at slightly higher than his current stats, 13/7/1 with high level defense he showed before his injury, get his TS% up a bit to the .58 range that make him average in the league, I don't think he accepts any offer less than 5/$150mil. In fact, I'm not even sure he'd accept that, but there's no way he accepts any offer with AAV under $30mil. These days 3&D type players who are indeed good enough in both areas get paid a lot. Even if they're not stars.
Amens going to get max max. brooks n fvv won’t be here long If you pay Jabari 150 plus, I’m deleting my account. He is a bonafide 5th best player on your team. Good, but not great.
I think this is where the league is gonna go eventually. The contracts has gotten so high that, the extra money a player gets by testing the market, is not worth the injury risk. Stone used it wisely with Sengun and Green, and I believe they were good deals both for the team and the players. Other teams did not and i think it was a mistake on their part. I am anticipating that the same will happen with Jabari and we will keep him in the 25-30 million range, probably closer to 25.
Don’t over think it … The open market can only sign a player for 4 years, and with max 5% raises vs 5yr / 8% raises So, even in an RFA bidding war, when we’re talking role players, pretty much all 5yr contracts will provide higher total, thus more security than 4yrs (even at higher AAV).
If you exclude his rookie season as an outlier, his career average is around 36% which is right at league average. If he keeps on this average down the road, then he'll be an average 3&D guy with above average size. It doesn't look likely that Alpi, and Amen will become above average 3pt shooters. That leaves Jalen, Tari, Cam, and Reed to be determined.
I couldn't follow what you say. Are you saying that there is not enough incentive for players to sign an earlier (cheaper) contract or even if we go to the open market, we have a strong advantage against other teams in the bidding war? Thanks for pointing out the differences by the way.
Oh, I was just saying I don’t think favoring 5yr contracts vs testing the market in RFA is a new trend. I think it’s always been that way.
I think they'll look to lock up Jabari. I would be surprised if they don't get a deal done, even if the annual value is on the high side. My post from a similar thread last month:
Jabari has the best defensive rating of anyone on this team with 105.9, so when people discount his defense I don't get their logic. Unless of course you thing defensive ratings are meaningless. Not only that, he's one of our best 3 PT shooters. I think a lot of people underestimate his value to this team, and don't have as much faith as I do that he will get better each year.
Historically, most roll players take 5yr extensions over testing the market limited in RFA. It’s only when they get low-balled by Morey, do they seek RFA.
At this point, they pay him for his rebounding and his switchability defense, overall defense. The shooting is a plus but not his forte. Maybe when he is 26 and up for a new contract we can say he is a new Dirk. The KPJ and Jalen contracts are unique ones that are not the norm, revamped and restructured because they are inconsistent.
