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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Yeah man if only he'd have his best first half of his career and then we knew he always plays better post ASB that would be sweet.

    But no we have a Jalen who regresses to the mean at ASB. Sorry bro, so sorry for you.
     
  2. jordnnnn

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    I wouldn’t agree that this is who he is and always will be, still too young for that. But I do think the evidence continues to mount that being a number 1 scoring option isn’t his likely future role on a contending team.
     
  3. hlmbasketball

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    Hmmmm
     
  4. Easy

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    Jamal Murray is the kind of hot and cold scorer. They won a championship when he was hot in the playoffs. If Jalen can be that, I'll be satisfied. He's not going to be a Jokic who gives you massive production night in and night out.
     
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  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Come on.....that would be amazing, but he is so much better than Jalen with the ball in his hands....Jalen has flaws, struggles going left, dribble is below average, avoids contact instead of taking it on - Jalen is worth what we are paying him but there is a reason Alpi is an all star and Jalen isn't.

    DD
     
  6. NotTooYoungtoContend

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    That's really disappointing.

    He has improved a lot defensively so I appreciate that but I didn't realize his efficiency had slipped so much compared to a few weeks ago.

    I think our entire team is better when FVV plays. I think Jalen suffers a lot without a competent, adult point guard playing along side him.
     
  7. mac_got_this

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    I don’t agree with Charles Barkely that often but I thought he wa spot on about Jalen when he said once he figures out how to get ride of those difficult shots, he’ll take that next step because right now he makes the game harder for himself than it needs to be. Hes a tough shot maker.
     
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  8. heypartner

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    If we are going to talk about Jalen, in terms of the previous years defining him, then you have to *also* accept that he plays best after the ASB. That means for him to be shooting 35% right now is significantly better than any previous year.

    year 1: 29% at this date in the year
    year 2: 33%
    year 3: 30%

    why wouldn’t you believe this means his got a hot streak left in him this year, whereby he indeed ends up at 36% for the year?

    Then it’s all about what he does in the Playoffs.

    bottomline: if you are going to claim history to project Jalen’s outcome, well, then history also says this point in the year is always near his lowest 3FG% of each year.​
     
  9. heypartner

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    See my above post
     
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    I would be pretty happy if Jalen eventually becomes a ~45/38/85 shooter on average like Murray.
     
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  11. jogo

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    I've made bets about this with people on here before and they disappear when they start losing the bet. Jalen Green won't end up at or above 36% on threes for the year. The original point was that he wouldn't shoot 38% from 3's for the rest of the year. If he cut his 3 PMA to 6 or 6.5 a game then he might have a chance.

    Jalen could hit his post all start break bump. But if you think that's a given, then it could also be a given that he'll regress when next year starts.

    Jalen is improving but, again, he's not going to become Ant. I think his prime years are ages 23-27 or so which means he'll be at his peak now. He's not a #1 scorer on a winning team.
     
  12. harold bingo

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    He's not? How would you describe him right now?
     
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    Murray shoots less from 3 and more midrange. I think one of Jalen's main problems is shot selection. He still doesn't have a good feel of when to shoot, when to drive, and when to pass.
     
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    I think it's important to note that while Jalen Green has made steady, albeit incredibly slow improvement, the Rockets are still worse with him on the court than him off the court.

    In fact, his impact to the offensive rating and defensive rating is the 2nd most negative on the team behind only Jeff Green...and with Jeff Green it's a tiny sample that isn't reliable.

    When the guy leading the team in minutes is an overall -11.6 to the combined offensive and defensive rating of the team when he's on the court, it's suboptimal. His few hot games are awesome, but when you look at ALL games, not just the select few, Jalen is still an anchor around the neck of the team more often than not.

    Hopefully he continues to improve and one day that'll no longer be the case.
     
  15. jogo

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    I mean he's not a #1 scorer on a championship level team. If we have aspirations to win the title, then he's a second banana. He can't lead up to a championship.
     
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    Post makes too much sense.
     
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    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    Your second to last sentence makes absolutely no sense. His best years will be between 23 - 27 (debatable), so he’s at his “peak” now right after he turned 23? Sorry, that’s pretty silly. And most players “peaks” are between 27 - 30. Green’s most likely nowhere near his “peak.”
     
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  18. Mathloom

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    Which 23 year old is a #1 scorer on a championship team bro?
     
  19. harold bingo

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    Oh..okay. You wrote "winning team", I didn't know you meant "championship team." Because we are a winning team right now and he is the leading scorer.
     
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    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    The last 20 games, Green has basically averaged 25 ppg on .4 from 3. Even if he just keeps that up, he'll likely end up averaging close to 23 ppg on .37 - .38 from 3. People would be upset about that?

    And, let's be clear -- Green has been an ironman. He's clearly exhausted and playing through some pain. Let's see how a post-AS break, refreshed Green performs. If he steps it up, he could easily end up averaging close to 24 ppg.

    I don't know why people are so quick to make such overarching conclusions about a guy who just turned 23 and is improving. Patience is a virtue, y'all.
     
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