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Bregman has signed with the Boston Red Sox

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Rockets34Legend, Sep 18, 2024.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    I love that none of the Houston teams have leaky front offices. The less we know about what they're thinking, the better, imo
     
  2. DVauthrin

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    I don’t disagree. I just think it’s embarrassing for a Sports Director at a Houston television station to pass off Buster Olney’s speculation in an ESPN article like it’s fact in a social media post. Like I said, regardless of where Bregman signs, it shows how bad journalism standards are in 2025.
     
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  3. GOATuve

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    165 million with a team you've been with your entire career. Is a contender and no state income tax doesn't seem like a "pay cut" to me
     
  4. BlindHog

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    I turned it long ago.
     
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  5. GOATuve

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    I think everyone has. Probably the teams he's interested in (if that's even accurate) feel the same.
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

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    An old favorite tune that also says what I feel. Nice.
     
  8. texans1095

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    I had a chance to intern with McIlvoy in the KPRC sports department a couple different times. Incredibly nice guy, but it’s clear that he doesn’t really have any sources the same way a lot of local sports reporters do. He’s always well behind the rest of the local guys when it comes to reporting on breaking news.
     
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  9. Nick

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    And yet, based on his salary the last two years, it is.

    I’m not saying the Astros should pay him more. Most players in his situation are having to take shorter team deals with higher $/year because that’s how mid market teams prefer to operate.

    The players should want something more consistent and a system that sees salaries go up as is being seen in other sports. They can work to fix it when the league shuts down after 2026.
     
  10. IBTL

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    Bregman to Houston, confirmed.
     
  11. J.R.

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    More sauces

     
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  12. Hoothrewpoo

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    someone tag idstrosfan... he was absolutely positive a short term deal wouldn't happen.
     
  13. IBTL

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    **** em.
     
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  14. Htown Stros

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    It better be Boston otherwise he’s dumb. Look how Paredes fared in Chicago…not a good place to pull the ball. Detroit is awful as well.
     
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    Agreed.

    It's just unfortunate that it's either Bregman or nothing in terms of a final addition to the lineup.
     
  16. Hey Now!

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    Alex Bregman has been a better baseball player than Matt Chapman. He therefore believes he should earn more than Matt Chapman. The Astros are essentially offering him Chapman's deal + ~cost of living increase.

    Literally no one else on planet Earth would be labeled "greedy" for rejecting that and seeking compensation consistent with perceived value/accomplishments/merit, etc.

    I'm certainly not asking anyone to shed tears; only to stop labeling what Bregman has earned the right to do - something we ALL do - as "greedy." That is not only demonstratively false but it buys into the narrative that the poor owners - who make BILLIONS - are not the bad guys here. Alex Bregman is not the bad guy because he rightly feels like he should make more money than XYZ peers.

    The amounts - tens of millions - skews things but Bregman is merely doing what literally every single one of us does: seek fair compensation. If the market doesn't view his value the same way, that does not mean Bregman is greedy and he's under no obligation to "settle."

    I do not - and will not - ever shame a player for maximizing their value. And I find fans that do sanctimonious because... they wouldn't do the same thing, either, even if they were Alex Bregman. These guys don't, financially, exist in our world - but that doesn't mean that wipes away all the considerations, ego and such that equally applies to our own circumstances. "He has plenty of money!" is a statement made by people who make significantly less - but that's their reality and not Bregman's.
     
  17. GOATuve

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    That's what Alonzo had to do.

    I'm not begrudging Bregman but it seems pretty clear that the market that he thought he had isn't the there. I also think the Astros gave him a fair offer. If he doesn't want to be here so be don't drag it out. That said, we may have pulled our offer. Guess nobody really knows
     
  18. SuraGotMadHops

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    It knew it would play out like this...he would reject the long term deal from the Astros but still never get the (unrealistic) dream offer he wanted. Do a short term deal with high AAV and opt outs, then try again next year. News flash Alex, you won't get it next year either (see Carlos Correa).

    Astros played both Carlos' and Alex's free agencies pretty smart. Considering what both of these guys ended up getting/will get, their offers to both were competitive.

    Kyle Tucker likely WILL get the dream offer, so the Astros were smart to trade him now and recoup some value, including Bregman's potential replacement at 3rd (Cam Smith).
     
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    Yep.

    If baseball were a charity, where tickets were free and the primary mission of the league was to entertain underprivileged youth, or all net proceeds went to non-profits, then yeah there’d be an argument for denigrating the players who demand more money and go to the highest bidder. But this is just a pure for-profit entertainment enterprise. The guys are making 90% of their lifetime earnings before their 35th birthday, it’s insane to shame them for trying to make as much hay as possible while the sun is shining.
     
  20. GOATuve

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    Obviously we all make less than Bregman but his reality is he's still unsigned so what really is his value? The market is drying up. The deal he wants isn't on the table. That much is obvious. I thought 165 million was a fair offer and apparently others do too because nobody is beating down the door trying to sign him. OI love Bregsvand wanted him to retire an Astro but it was the same with Correa and Springer. I knew realistically we didn't have a chance. I thought we had one with Bregman. Look at what happened with Alonzo and the Mets.
     
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