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[WaPo] Trump moves to wrest control of USAID as Musk says, ‘We’re shutting it down’

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Feb 3, 2025.

  1. Amiga

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    Rubio is an advocate of USAID in the past. In 2022, he urged President Biden to prioritize it, along with the defense budget, in order to counter the growing influence of the CCP, particularly China’s expansive Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) that I mentioned earlier.

    Who is Rubio now, three years later? Who knows.

    Regarding the USAID reorganization, the sensible approach would be to restructure the agency in phases. The executive branch has the authority to do this, as long as it is faithfully executing the law (and asking for public feedback would be a plus). What we're seeing now is chaos - including, but not limited to, wasting resources like food already sitting at ports and rotting away, putting USAID personnel at risk in dangerous regions overseas, risking the spread of diseases, and endangering the lives of children and others who depend directly on US aid.

    I also have my doubts: Is Rubio truly leading the effort to reorganize USAID, or is he merely a figurehead while the agency is being dismantled from within - not faithfully executing the law as required by the Constitution. And what happened to the funds that Congress appropriated for USAID?

    (There is amplifying the worst-case scenarios, and there is disinformation. I see examples already, such as USAID being created out of thin air by the executive. Now, I am seeing a lack of understanding of what media influence means (or countering influences via media usage by other countries like China and Russia), apparently not understanding that the US doesn’t provide aid to others simply out of goodwill, but to exert influence.)
     
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  2. HP3

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    Its BS theatre, one you dont even know if its important or not, BECAUSE they cut it and feed you whatever BS justification they have for doing so.,

    And TWO, WHY DO WE NEED TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY??????? You add to the debt that way.
     
  3. tallanvor

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    Its badass in practice. now reuters or whoever paid should explain what their anti social engineering product is and prove this isnt a payoff. You see a governmmt paying the media $10M and ask no questions. Very unamerican
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    But he isn't a MAGA so he is running a liberal slush fund. These guys are unreal
     
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  5. DonnyMost

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    If it doesn't change the outcome, it is theater.

    What they are doing so far (USAID in particular) is not going to change the outcome.

    Show me you're willing to make major cuts to the defense budget or entitlements and I'll take you seriously.

    What they're doing so far is the equivalent of governmental masturbation.

    Shuttering programs via ideological purity tests, while purely concern trolling about the budget.
     
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  6. HP3

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    There was no chance too, Elon cut it off. This is BS. And you just agree with whatever they tell you , whenever, and how ever.
     
  7. HP3

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    Or instead of entitlements HOW ABOUT NOT GIVING TAX CUTS TO THE WEALTHY

    They are going to try and cut Medicaid funding so they can offset the tax cuts.
     
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  8. tallanvor

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    @DonnyMost mind posting all the government spending to right leaning news outlets?
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    No, in practice it's clearly stupid people riling up other stupid people.

    You may not believe this, but I'm of the opinion the federal government should pretty much only worry itself with protecting the nation's sovereignty and keeping a standing military. That being said, what you're suggesting isn't really a scalable solution to government spending. Running every expenditure through a twitter poll.
     
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  10. DonnyMost

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    Probably zero. Maybe Trump will change that, lulz.

    If you want to find the conservative recipients you'll probably have to mosey on down to the department of un-aliving people.
     
  11. tallanvor

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    'The public knowing about government spending is bad actually'
     
  12. Agent94

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    Seriously you are quoting a paid Russian propagandist.
     
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  13. DonnyMost

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    The fact that you just actively participated in the deception of that twitter poster and are now trying to tap-dance around it is just high comedy
     
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  14. DonnyMost

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    Correct, revenues are the other portion where you can prove you're actually serious about the problem.

    Doubt we will see that in this admin.
     
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  15. tallanvor

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    Your stated positions in this thread are that the public knowing about government spending is bad and that nobody should question the government giving millions to media companies
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    Far from it. I asked myself plenty of questions. I have personally purchased Reuters courseware before at the enterprise level. I have the context to more than likely know what is going on there. Joe Twitter user, however, clearly doesn't.

    Giving people the information is fine, but what you're getting from these websites is not adequate to make judgments most of the time. Imagine trying to summarize a multi million dollar program into about 10 words?

    Like I said, I'm not making judgments about the use of the money. I'm far too removed from the ground level to make that call. But at least I have the humility to admit that.

    You, on the other hand, seem to suspend your critical thinking skills as soon as some jerkoff on twitter tickles the right ideological dopamine receptors in your brain.
     
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  17. DonnyMost

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    No. I showed you how that such a good intention can go wrong, and you were more than willing to demonstrate that.
     
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  18. Agent94

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    This is such narrow minded drivel. Do you ever wonder why so many people are constantly gargling the nuts of the richest men in the history of the world while the standard of living has been stagnant for 30 years and wealth inequality is at historic levels. Here's a hint: The media you consume is not independent. It's by corporations for corporations.
     
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    can't vouch for this, might be AI

     
  20. HP3

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    Well...they lied about the condoms to Gaza ordeal.

    So what reason do I have to believe them now.
     
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