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The offical Trump Tariff thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    okay, you're back in the play-in. but you face Luka Doncic in the first round :p
     
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  2. Salvy

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    I'm still shocked The Lakers did not trade for Sengun instead of Luka...
     
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  4. deb4rockets

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    As long as America has millions of people determined to buy crap like Fentanyl, there will always be someone willing to try and sneak that nasty stuff across the border. Demand drives supply, illegal or not. Just like our American manufactured guns being smuggled across the border to Mexican cartels. That's on us and them. It's a 2 way street. Guess who gets caught trying to smuggle Fentanyl across border check points most of the time? Americans. Desperate and dumbass Americans doing the bidding for the big dealers.

    Why are Americans buying Fentanyl so stupid? We are driving that supply chain as long as dumbasses keep buying that crap. Now we have millions of addicts. Their addictions aren't going away. This country is in serious need of treatment for all these addicts, and the minute many get out of jail they are back looking for more. It's a sickness. The drugs don't sell themselves, and can't harm people who don't take them.

    You want to stop drugs you designate illegal from coming across the border? Good luck. It's going to take far more money put into stopping the entry of these drugs on our side of the border, drug awareness, outreach, and rehab. By rehab I don't just mean counseling sessions in prison either.

    Some people believe all drugs should be legal. They say let people out that crap into their bodies if they want to. They say, let them poison or kill themselves if they want to. I don't have the answer, but making them illegal isn't stopping millions of Americans from buying illegal drugs either. That's pretty obvious.

    There are 1,954-miles of Mexico border and 5,525 miles of Canadian border. That's 7,479 miles of border.

    Many drug smugglers and human traffickers will find ways to get between checkpoints. Even checkpoints don't catch them all. If they did we wouldn't be finding trucks in Texas towns full of dead migrants, or houses full of trafficked women and kids.

    What can we do? Put 5 armed guards every 1/2 mile along the Canadian and Mexico border between checkpoint entries with drones watching each square foot in their area? We will need 74,790 armed guards spotting for drug smugglers. Now, if we put them on 8 hr shifts we need 3 times that amount, which is 224,370 guards. Oh wait, then you have to consider those who get sick, take days off, vacation, get hurt or killed, those transporting any smugglers they arrest, and those in training, so you need another set of backups of at least 37,395 people. Now we are up to 261,765 guards. If we pay them between 60,000 to 80,000 each in pay and benefits then it will cost 18,323,550,000. That doesn't include the price of radio equipment, drones, guns, ammo, vehicles, uniforms, water, and other supplies. I honestly have no idea how many more billions that would be. It's a costly business to stop smugglers. We can probably catch most of them on the borders that way, but they will still come by sea and air.

    We also have 95,439 miles of shoreline to protect as well. The Coast Guard can only do so much. Tons of smugglers come to our shores in boats too. Smugglers transport goods in everything from cargo ships to private yachts. Everybody knows that. Then you have smugglers in planes, smugglers sending goods through the mail, smugglers using mules to transport drugs inside them. You could have mules on a cruise ship, your airplane, or driving across the border. We aren't going to stop all Fentanyl or other drugs from coming in. Never. All we can do is limit some.

    We aren't going to stop all the sick pedos and sexual pervs paying to rape trafficked victims either, but they should definitely get put away for a long long time. They are human filth. The traffickers should get the death penalty in my eyes. Again, the saddest part of all is how many Americans pay to have their sick ways with these children or pay to watch that sick crap on the dark web. Now those are the real animals. Human filth. What's the answer? I'll tell you one thing, there will always be drug abusers and perverts seeking their fix somewhere in this country.
     
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  5. ThatBoyNick

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    People would make it internally if it needs to be, wouldn't they? People understand the risk of fentanyl in street drugs and still do them. Although the OD rate peaked in 2022 and dipped in 2023 for the first time in 5 years, so hopefully we're seeing a tide turn.


    This issue is something that makes me think about the debate on recreational drug legalization. This seems like a prohibition issue.
     
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  6. AleksandarN

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    Why did Trump pardon a guy who enabled drug dealers selling drugs over the internet?
     
  7. Space Ghost

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    Uhhh bad news bro. SS has been bankrupt for years. The government is keeping their word by printing money.
    So ya, since I was a teen I was told SS was going to be bankrupt and I wouldn't get paid. Let's just be honest for a moment. People who need SS the most are the ones who never saved because they were low income learners. And you get paid to your proportion. Even top contributors wouldn't make enough to feel comfortable on its own.
     
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    You have to hand it to Trump. He's amazing at pretending to have struck great deals despite them already being struck by other people.
     
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    I read the book of his story, American Kingpin: The Epic Hunt for the Criminal Mastermind Behind the Silk Road. Yeah, if you pardon the guy who made millions with his dark web site that's as hypocritical as it gets. 70% of the items sold on the site were illegal drugs.

    Now, if Trump believes all drugs should be legal then it would make more sense, but he's for just killing the drug dealers, yet pardoning the guy who made millions providing a service for their distribution. o_O He's white though, so that helps I guess. What's next? Gifting him a position in intelligence?
     
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  10. Astrodome

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    The fuq I look like? A trump expert? I wasn't impressed with any of the pardons of the last few months.
     
  11. wompwomp

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    so he got the same thing minus 5k when Mexico deployed 15k troops in 2019, the same 10k troops in 2021 and illegal fentanyl rose that whole time and this is supposed to be something? And Trudeau is going to do the thing he already agree with Biden and this is also something.

    This is like the saddest performative community theater where nothing happens.
     
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  12. astros123

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    He does it cuz his base are very low iq Individuals who worship the ground he walks on @Tomstro @El_Conquistador
     
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    it's just hilarious to hear the spin on this....but this makes Trudeau do it faster! So the art of the deal guy had to use the most extreme and laziest negotiation tactic when he supposedly had all the leverage in the world to get something that was already happening....yikes, art of the deal indeed. I guess he did unified canada and got Mark Carney in the spotlight.
     
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  14. rimrocker

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    SS is not broke. However, if things go on as they currently are, by 2037, there will not be enough to cover 100% of obligations as we swallow all us retired baby boomers. More like 76%. A few tweaks to the payroll tax and we're good. After we digest baby boomers we're good.

    And yes, of course the people who need SS the most are low income--or disabled, or handicapped, or those who spent every penny on a medical treatments. That is the whole point of SS. Everyone gets it because everyone has a risk of financial ruin. Everyone has it because if you means-tested it, there would be a whole class that would be against it. (There still is, but it would be more acute.)

    FDR:

    We can never insure one hundred percent of the population against one hundred percent of the hazards and vicissitudes of life, but we have tried to frame a law which will give some measure of protection to the average citizen and to his family against the loss of a job and against poverty-ridden old age.

    This law, too, represents a cornerstone in a structure which is being built but is by no means complete. It is a structure intended to lessen the force of possible future depressions. It will act as a protection to future Administrations against the necessity of going deeply into debt to furnish relief to the needy. The law will flatten out the peaks and valleys of deflation and of inflation. It is, in short, a law that will take care of human needs and at the same time provide the United States an economic structure of vastly greater soundness.
     
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  15. SamFisher

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    You hate to see the bad faith clowns at WSJ telling Trump he ate **** but :

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  16. astros123

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    When you see these MAGA cultists being so brainwashed it helps you realize how Hitler nd other dictators got into power. Individuals want to feel as they are part of something big or a revolution. It's our human need and in the process you get brainwashed thinking youre serving some bigger cause.

    Its genuinely sad watching it unfold
     
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    Nope, 45% of the white college graduates voted for Trump. Considering that 90% of the Republicans are white, literally half of 'em have a college degree.

    Thats the lie y'all keep on spinning "its the hillbilly rednecks and white trash", sure buddy
     
  19. heypartner

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    Since Trump blinked so easily, I’m now wondering if the fake tariffs on Canada and Mexico were just a strategy to make it appear like he wasn’t singling out China.

    Now he can attempt to convince China that Canada and Mexico were willing to negotiate, why can’t you?
     
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  20. HP3

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    Bro do you realize the more educatd you are, the less likely you are to vote for Trump, his percentage gets lower and lower as the education gets higher.

    And i have the numbers to back me up.
     
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