Are we approaching dissolve the Union level territory

Sam - is our DEMOCRACY AT STAKE? That line failed miserably during the lead-up to the election, especially given the fact that the dems didn't even hold a primary for their candidate, and weaponized the justice department against their political enemies.

Have a great Sunday, old friend!

 

Thread topics keep getting more r****ded.

If you dont like this country, the flee like @astros123

 

It’s actually a smart reminder that if blue states did decide to leave the union it would be pretty devastating to the country. I think the question is better served by understanding how pro democracy states can and should use the leverage they have… and yes California, Washington, and Oregon threatening to join Canada would 110% be someone that Trump would do if the roles were reversed and you’d be first in line to tell us how brilliant of a strategy it is and lecturing the other side as if this is all their fault.

The idea of threatening to unionize with Canada and Mexico from a trade and security standpoint is actually pretty smart thing to threaten. The West Coast unionizing with Canada, and Mexico would be a pretty powerful global superpower that literally has the US surrounded and vulnerable from trade challenges.

It’s called leverage and while nobody wants a civil war or a cold civil war dispute, to act like it doesn’t exist and respond with arrogance would be a miscalculation. The US needs blue states likely more than they need us.

 

**** off with your lies.

The only one weaponizing the justice department is Trump, he is a criminal himself, he should be in prison.

DD

 

Keep in mind too that from a wall/border/checkpoint standpoint Cali/Was/OR would benefit greatly from the Sierra/Cascades/Mojave geography essentially acting as a border wall with a limited amount of checkpoints already. It’s almost like the geography was built for it.

Also don’t forget about Hawaii which poses another massive loss for the US if they join the new NA Democratic union with Canada and Mexico. Alaska… maybe not as much of a quick sell but I wouldn’t rule it out either.

California leaving the Union is a much much bigger deal than you guys think and I do think that threat should be deployed sooner than later because of the leverage they have.

 

This thread proves how ignorant people are. You all come up with stupid hypotheticals and then others like yourself jump in to support this nonsense without even taking into consideration of what you're even saying.

First, no state is leaving the country unless both the state and country agree. Adding states and/or territories and splitting/combining states is much more likely.
Second, states like California is not what makes these companies successful. This logic is completely r****ded. They are successful because of the American hegemony which would be lost if the state left the US. Companies are already leaving California in droves because of the political environment is rampant with incompetence.

Again, dumb hypotheticals that mean absolutely nothing. Grade school level conversation that likens 'my dad can beat up your dad' nonsense.

 

I think that is part of the plan, they want us to annex Mexico and Canada - but if I am the military, there is ZERO chance that happens, they will just say no and start arresting starting with Heggie....

There is no way ANY American should be drawn into war for these ****ing turds......

DD

 

DOGE got the keys to the Treasury
so much money is about to disappear
So many Assets quietly sold off

Rocket River

 

related

‘We Have No Coherent Message’: Democrats Struggle to Oppose Trump
More than 50 interviews with Democratic leaders revealed a party struggling to decide what it believes in, what issues to prioritize and how to confront an aggressive right-wing administration.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/02/us/politics/democrats-trump.html

excerpt:

As Democrats face the reality of President Trump’s second term, they share a fundamental belief: This moment calls for an inspirational message from their party.

They just cannot decide what, exactly, that should be.

In private meetings and at public events, elected Democrats appear leaderless, rudderless and divided. They disagree over how often and how stridently to oppose Mr. Trump. They have no shared understanding of why they lost the election, never mind how they can win in the future.
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more at the link

 

So you want to sit here and say that if the roles were reversed Trump would not threaten it in order to try and leverage the power that the states that support his party have???

Now that is a take that is r****ded.

 

It doesn't matter who is talking about seceeding from the US. It's a dumb topic.

 

If you have to resort to cursing, you've lost any argument among adults. just LOL at your comment that Biden didn't weaponize the DOJ - change the channel off of MSNBC, big boy.

 

Who says no in the west coast seceding from the US?

Legit question. Republicans nationally could support it due to the vitriol against west coast politics, Dems nationally could support it, in support of a blue faction becoming independent.

The west coast itself could support it as well.

Seems about as reasonable to pondering about the sovereignty of Canada, Panama, Greenland and the UK.