Players Drives | Stats | NBA.com https://search.app/GQJpecW61SYTqpPe8 Jalen Green has a higher volume of drives per game, higher fg% on drives and a significantly lower turnover rate. And that is with Amen having the advantage of having a lot more of his drives against less help defense. Green is more efficient on higher volume with more attention than Amen on drives to the rim specifically
You keep going back to the same thing. I never mentioned one thing about Jalen getting blocked. Far too often in the game he tries to iso and makes a move then goes no where picks up his dribble and just throws it back out to Fred or something. Lot of times he doesn't even get off a shot. How do you not see this? And it has nothing to do with double teams he just can't beat his man individually.
What are you even arguing, like I said you asked about potential. I never said he was better today. But by this time next year I would be surprised if he isn't,
Yes you said he is "more promising" as a go to clutch guy because of one game against Boston where he eurored Jaylen Brown while he was backpedaling because he thought Amen was going to be the hand off guy in a dho play.
And you are literally making arguments that right now as we speak Amen handles contact better than Jalen when Jalen is more efficient on drives with less turnovers per drive attempt while experiencing more help defenders.
I never once said anything about Amen and turnovers. You are just inferring and making things up, I saw Amen just body check brown and move him out the way. Jalen green will never be able to do that. So yes when he develops a jump shot he will be a much more lethal scorer in half court than Jalen is
Jalen Green has body checked dudes with the exact same move multiple times in his career lol. You understand when a defender even as strong as Brown backpedals, it becomes a game of balance more than strength. Brown was backpedaling while Amen did that step through that shoved Brown out of the way. It wasn't like Brown was set. Green has absolutely done this to strong dudes backpedaling. You understand your entire argument is based on highlights of a player you prefer while probably dumping the memories of Green doing it.
If you think amen will struggle with physical defenders more than Jalen. I have no idea what you are watching. Amen is the best physical specimen we have had since Tmac. He will be elite at everything. Just get on board already, it won't be close in 2 years.
People naturally asses the reasoning for Harden's high turnovers is because of his high usage. No matter how you spin it, he still turned the ball over at a high rate. Sure he was great but at the same time, he was a high turnover player. And anytime the all is in your hands and much ad Jalen handles the ball or most scoring guards, you're going to turn the ball over is my point
He did not turn it over at a high rate. That is factually wrong. You can’t really have opinions or eye test nonsense about facts. This is the equivalent of saying “pitcher A gave up 12 runs and that’s a lot, it doesn’t matter if it was over 20 innings or 80 innings”
I just did a check on both primary pnr ball handler possessions and drive possessions for Harden in his MVP season. His tov% on pnr possessions is 19%. Green this season is at 13% On drives Harden was at 6% and Green this season is at 7%. This is more about people overinflating Green's turnover issues. I never perceived Harden as bad as taking care of the ball as a primary ball handler.
Green isn’t part of this or relevant in any way to this. Those are also far from all of the possessions harden used.
Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno That's the thread title. The only reason Harden and turners are being discussed is precisely because people are making claims that Green is horrendous at taking care of the ball.
Didn’t see that. I was trying to help one person understand how rate stats and not totals are what matters, that’s all. Pointless endeavor obviously, but such is my nature.
This. Jalen will never....ever....ever...be better than Amen at this. Ever. Jalen can do it to like....Trae Young. He can't do it to say....Brunson or Jaylen Brown. There's a reason he gets turned back on his drives. A lot. He's just too small and too short.
I'm glad I'm not the only who sees it. He literally gets stonewalled 3-4 times a game and people say he's some generational half court scorer.
It's like you don't even watch the games. Jalen struggles beating one on one coverage more often than he beats it. He beats it when defenses are in scramble mode and no one is in front of him to begin with. On a few occasions he'll beat his man. More often than not he'll do some dribble attack moves and his man stays right there in front of him causing Jalen to pick up the ball and pass it off. For someone so athletic and quick it's amazing he has this much trouble - not even blowing by - just simply getting his shoulder past his defender repeatedly.
I don't think you are a good objective arbiter. Neither am I but let's be clear. You have an obsessive psychopathic hate. When Green gets dropped in iso it's more because he sees a help defender behind his primary defender. And also when you hate a player you will have ingrained in you all the time Green got stoped because a defense guessed correctly which why he woll drive. You won't remember when it happens to Ja or Ant.
