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Fox should be the star the Rockets trade for

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HTownTmac1, Jun 28, 2024.

  1. PeterKingX

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    I am 100% sure that current lineup wont win championship. We would play struggling in playoffs if we dont have any superstar.
     
  2. PeterKingX

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    No. Fox is that amazing talent.

    Fox >>> Jalen
     
  3. Hemingway

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    Fox would be a great fit for SA. We should hope they don't get him. He is not a great fit for the Rockets. The Spurs have a lot of draft capital so they might be open to trading for him, but not this year's pick as they have a very legitimate shot at being gifted Flagg by the NBA. Pairing Wemby and Flagg would be a dream come true for the NBA who wants desperately to capture more of the global market and see Wemby as their bell cow. Fox, Wemby, and Flagg would be extremely formidable core to build around.
     
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    Not sure why the narrative is Fox or Booker you have the assets for both.

    I would make the Fox trade now, and see how the playoff run goes. In the summer offer Green and PHX picks for Booker.

    Fox
    Booker
    Amen
    Bari
    Sengun

    that should be the goal,
     
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  5. roslolian

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    You understand capspace is a thing right? Rox would be in 2nd apron with just those 5 players.

    Your name is PhillyRocket tell me how Morey's star chasing ways panned out. They paying 3 max contract for a tanking team and will give their lotto pick to OKC.
     
  6. FLASH21

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    If you argue that, I'd argue:

    Amen>>> Fox

    Why trade away talent for someone that could easily become that same style of player, if not so much better. Plus, you're taking away from depth that makes our team so unique.

    Don't think he quite moves the needle in terms of star power to get us into true championship contending conversations. We're a great team in the regular season but you're right the playoffs is a different beast in itself. I just don't think Fox is that missing piece to thrust us over the likes of OKC, Boston, and even the Grizzlies.
     
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  7. roslolian

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    I hope Fox ends up with Wemby. This would make them better and they would rise up in the standings and make PHX life harder.

    Spurs wont get Flagg they will be in the play in or even playoffs if they get Fox. He and wemby are a perfect fit like Duncan and Parker.
     
  8. CRJ713

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    Fox, Green, Amen, Alpi would be crazy!
     
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  9. PeterKingX

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    I agree with you on most of points.

    But Fox is also great fit for Rockets.
    We lost many games this season because of offense drought. Fox could perfectly fix that problem.
     
  10. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    I get all the great arguments about fit, spacing, etc. I truly do. But my primitive caveman mind keeps coming back to this.
     
  11. htownrox1

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    Don’t know how realistic, but that would be a dynasty for sure.
     
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  12. PeterKingX

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    Make the Spurs better? Hell nooo.

    *** the Spurs and Wemby.
     
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    If we're not going to trade for him ourselves, I think we should try to get a three-team trade going and keep him off of San Antonio somehow. Ideally send him out East, which I'm sure the Kings would also prefer in an ideal world.
     
  14. Hemingway

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    That's true that Fox might get them out of the lottery. Might be a reason they won't trade for him this year. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the Spurs still intend to tank the latter half of this year. Wemby will have some mysterious injury if not a real one. This is a really strong draft at the top and the Spurs would be foolish to throw a chance away at one of those top picks for a play-in spot.
     
  15. roslolian

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    Fox said he is asking for s trade if Spurs want to get him the time is now.

    If Spurs wanted to tank they wouldnt have signed Cp3 and traded away the 8th pick in the lotto. They are happy with Wemby imo.
     
  16. CRJ713

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    Same here bro, at the end of the day, if we have an opportunity to pair Fox, JG, Amen with Alpi you have to do it. We could sneak a championship this year. I really believe we can.
     
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    Spurs will be better regardless. I rather they get Fox now then get a stud in the 2025 draft and have that dude grow with Wemby.
     
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    If the price is right and if Fox isnt a drama king I agree. I dont know much about Fox or his personality I dont watch the Kings.
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/60...n-fox-trade-rumors-kings-spurs-rockets-magic/

    Vecenie:

    Houston, we have a problem

    Proposal No. 1:

    • Rockets acquire Fox and Kevin Huerter
    • Kings acquire Fred VanVleet, Reed Sheppard, a 2025 first-round pick and a 2026 first-round pick

    Proposal No. 2:

    • Rockets acquire Fox, Alex Len and Jordan McLaughlin
    • Kings acquire Steven Adams, Jeff Green, Aaron Holiday, Cam Whitmore, three first-round picks

    I am skeptical the Rockets will want to get involved in a Fox deal given how successful they’ve been so far this year. My colleague Kelly Iko reported that the Rockets “intend to ride the team’s current momentum into the postseason.”

    So, why would Houston at least consider it? Jalen Green could charitably be described as streaky throughout his career, as his first 20 games this season were quite poor, with the following 20 games being terrific. He’s looked good recently, but I don’t know that Houston can reliably count on him to end games. Enter Fox, one of the league’s best players in clutch time, a legitimate shot creator both as a scorer and passer. His synergy in ball screens with Sabonis should give the Rockets positive indications that he could play well with center Alperen Şengün. This would be an immediate all-in move that could propel the Rockets to real postseason success.

    However, I’m a bit skeptical about Fox’s fit with the roster as a whole. Fox and Sabonis, in their most successful moments, have always been surrounded by an immense amount of shooting and floor-spacing. This Rockets situation wouldn’t really provide that if only for the presence of Amen Thompson. Thompson looks like the Rockets’ best player at this point, a dominant athlete whose ability to play in transition, defend anyone on the court, finish at the rim, rebound and pass has pushed the Rockets to even further heights since he entered the starting lineup. He’s averaging 19.2 points, 11.5 rebounds, 4.4 assists, 2.2 steals, 1.2 blocks and shooting 57 percent from the field while drawing six free-throw attempts per game in his last 10, which coincides with when Jabari Smith Jr. got injured. In those last 10 games, Thompson has played more minutes than anyone on the Rockets, and they’ve gone 8-2 with wins over the Los Angeles Lakers, Cleveland Cavaliers (twice) and Boston Celtics (twice) among others.

    Undeniably, with Fox replacing VanVleet in the starting lineup paired with Green, Thompson, Dillon Brooks and Şengün, the Rockets would be the most athletic team we’ve seen in quite a while. They’d be a terror to play, and that doesn’t even account for Tari Eason, Smith and potentially Cam Whitmore coming off the bench. They would be able to overwhelm teams with speed and power. But would teams take Fox seriously when he plays off the ball next to Thompson and Green? Or would those two be resigned to more of an off-ball role?

    The Rockets can be patient here in a way few other teams can. They don’t have to go all-in when any star lead guard becomes available. They can wait for the right one. I think there’s a real case that Fox might not be the right one given his lack of shooting ability. Regardless, I created two trade structures to peruse. The first one is a simple swap. The Rockets get Fox and take on the Kevin Huerter deal from the Kings as a value-add for Sacramento. They send out VanVleet, the No. 3 pick in the 2024 NBA Draft in Sheppard and a couple of picks. Why would the Kings do this? It just depends on their priorities. If they want to contend with this core even while trading Fox, VanVleet is still an excellent player and has a favorable contract that has a team option for next season at $44.9 million. They could either see this as an expiring deal, or they keep building with this core. They also get their potential point guard of the future in Sheppard, a player I remain very high on even though the Rockets haven’t been able to find time for him because of their success. The Kings are known to be a very analytically inclined organization, led by general manager Monte McNair. They likely had a very high grade on Sheppard entering last year’s draft.

    The second deal is more of a typical structure for a star trade. The Kings get $35 million in expiring salary in Adams, Green and Holiday. They take Whitmore, a very productive scorer on the wing for the Rockets who has the athletic traits and touch to develop into a 20-point scorer before his rookie-scale contract runs out. Then, they also get three first-round picks.

    Again, though, all of this would depend on whether the Rockets even wanted to take this shot.

    His other proposals:

    A Wemby team-up
    • Spurs acquire De’Aaron Fox from Kings, Simone Fontecchio from Pistons
    • Kings acquire Tre Jones, Blake Wesley, Sandro Mamukelashvili, two 2025 first-round picks (via SAS and ATL), a top-10 protected 2025 first-round pick (via CHI) and a 2027 first-round pick (via ATL)
    • Pistons acquire Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham and a 2025 second-round pick (via SAS from SAC)

    Orlando takes its swing on a guard
    • Magic acquire Fox
    • Kings acquire Anthony Black, two 2025 first-round picks (via ORL and DEN), one 2027 first-round pick from Magic; Malcolm Brogdon and Johnny Davis from Wizards
    • Wizards acquire Jonathan Isaac, Jett Howard, two second-round picks from Magic

    The “Let’s just finish the deadline all at once” deal
    • Kings acquire Jimmy Butler from the Heat, Tre Jones, Blake Wesley and two first-round picks from Spurs
    • Heat acquire Bruce Brown from Raptors, DeMar DeRozan from Kings and a first-round pick from Spurs
    • Spurs acquire Fox from Kings and Davion Mitchell from Raptors
    • Raptors acquire Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham and two second-round picks from Spurs
     
  20. roslolian

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    Huerter? Make it Malik Monk and IMO that is a deal.
     
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