We should be swinging for the fences during this trade deadline. This team has beaten the Cavs, Celtics and the Thunder solidifying the team as a contender but we desperately need a number 1 option to close out games when the offense goes stagnant. There's no reason we shouldn't be going all in unless Stone is planning on waiting for Booker next season. The long offensive droughts that this team has from stagnant offense is 100% going to kill the players and the fans in the playoffs. Reed and Cam likely are not going to get enough minutes to develop when Tari and Jabari are back in the lineup. Ime is not going to have a chance to play these dudes with every game being meaningful from here on out. With the resurgence of Tate and Holidays play we really should be selling high while we can. It doesn't make sense to sit on the talent or the picks because we likely are not going to retain these players anyways and the picks (outside the phoenix one) are useless if we are top 3 in the western conference going forward. Fox's defensive win shares is top 60 right there next to Jalen Green and he will be an upgrade for shot creation and clutch factor. Cam + Reed + Landale + multiple picks for Fox
If league rumors are to be believed, the Spurs are angling to put Fox and Giannis next to Wemby. And I’m sure that the lottery will be favorable to the Spurs. Whatever SA is doing, when they add a significant player to pair with Wemby, our group will struggle with that group. We are gritty and tough but I go back and forth whether internal improvement will be enough to have an edge. Are we really winning a series with this knife-fight D and erratic perimeter game? Consolidating a little talent to add Fox might vault this group into serious title contention. He might cost less today than when everybody is bidding later.
It's not that you have some secret information that others don't; you just overrate the hell out of possible (at best) scenarios and underrate what this team already has. Fox is available but surely not for only FVV + picks + filler. And since you don't want to empty our bag of draft assets for Booker, a vastly more proven player, Fox is also off the table. This is before we talk about how much Fox actually moves the needle when it comes to winning in the playoffs. Butler is poison that will jeopardize the potential of our core. Remember "sometimes you, sometimes me, always us"? If Butler joins the Rockets, say goodbye to that notion. Forever. Why even entertain the idea of trading for Butler? I have yet to read anyone say that Brooks (not old btw, just turned 29 years old), let alone FVV, is part of the core. Whatever your definition of "the core" is, Brooks and FVV without a doubt help the growth of our young guys. And Reed, when he played, looked as though he doesn't belong in the nba. Why is he part of the core? For this discussion I am disregarding the possibility of his becoming a starting calibre player years down the line because your post implies that we are ready to compete for a championship this season after making a midseason trade or two.
Sactown under Christie and Houston under Ime are both playing their best ball right now so I am not sure a trade materializes right now versus in the offseason.....
This is a likely outcome and a risky one for our near term success. At this point, the concern is less about a fit for Fox here, than Fox to Spurs, speeding up Wemby's path to the playoffs.
The Rockets aren't desperate though. They're ahead of schedule so there's no point in trading Reed, Cam and 1st round picks for any star when they're good enough for players to want to be in Houston without having to give any of that up. Patience is key. People can argue that Devin Booker would be a better option that Jalen Green or FVV but look where the Suns are in the standings. Fox is good but look where the Kings are vs. the Rockets. What if Durant comes over via trade then his old ass gets injured? You can name any star in trade talks. I'll take team chemistry over anyone. At first I was on board with trading FVV, but not right now. The last thing the Rockets need is to **** up the chemistry. But it's worth noting that FVV and Fox share the same agent. They need to figure out what they're going to do with Tate because this is his contract year (but he can help against bigger teams like OKC). Jock as well because they need a solid backup C when Adams is out until Bari can take some of those minutes. But they shouldn't do anything drastic this season.
There is no such thing as a Schedule......this is just a thing GM say when things are not going so well.....but yes the Rockets have more time than other teams. Opportunities that knock on the door are not overwhelming..... When someone of Wemby's stature is becoming available, hit us up again.
I agree with this but Reed, Cam and even Tate probably aren't going to get much playing time once Jabari and Tari come back. In the playoffs we are only going to run a 7-8 man rotation and next year we are back in contender status. Ime won't have an opportunity to develop these players so it makes sense to dump them now for a star if we can. We can also wait but that means this season we probably won't be able to contend because of the significant offensive lapses that exist currently.
Bunch of dreamers on this board. Phoenix in the playoffs and moving up towards 6 seed. We had the Nets picks and inexplicably traded them for the Suns picks, so ZERO chance at Flagg now.
Reed and Cam are better players than anything SA can offer, and they are under team control for a long time. I bet the Kings, who still want to compete, would want players & picks as opposed to just a bunch of picks. Also, I believe Fox would be giving up $77 million to leave us for SA in free agency due to losing his Bird rights. Would he really walk away from that to join an inferior team over playing in his hometown?
We should be cheering that Fox goes to San Antonio. The last thing that we need the Spurs to do is land an amazing talent in this upcoming draft...
What are your thoughts on chemistry? I think its crazy to do anything until you can see these kids play meaningful playoff basketball and it just feels like a 2k mindset with no gurantee of success. Durant hasnt done anything in PHX. Butler is a cancer. Too risky for me. Id rather these youngsters take their lumps in the playoffs and we can all see who's built for that stage.
And how would that happen exactly? There are teams with way more assets than the Spurs who pretty much have picks and a bunch of garbage outside of Wemby. Detroit for example could offer a much better package because they actually have young talent. Rockets no question. Thunder even. I'm sure the Rockets and Kings have talked and these "leaks" are from Kings brass trying to get the Rockets to up their bid. Issue with Fox is that it's a short term win now move.
Fox and Amen's role would be pretty redundant. If Fox was proficient from 3 he would be worth the cost. We already have Amen and Jalen that are making their living going to the hoop. Outside shooting would open the lanes up for them even more. When FVV is hot and playing off ball he is a better fit than Fox for this team. The Rockets are not going to forfeit their flexibility for a rental that doesn't fit.
Isn’t it already reported that the Rockets FO is not getting involved in a trade for Fox and any other major move this season? Why is this even being debated anymore? It’s not going to happen. Marginal moves at best. I think I read they’re only looking to add salary to acquire 2nd rounders.
They have the hardest remaining schedule in the nba. Nothing is certain yet in regards to their record.
I think their philosophy has been to be opportunistic when some unexpected star shakes loose or if they can make a change or two to tweak the player mix. I think they might try to add a situational bench player that can shoot, but no big trades not because they are un-willing, but no one they covet is available at a reasonable price. I don't think for a minute that anyone outside of Amen, Sengun, and Jalen are untouchable for a Ant or Giannis level star.
