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The Official President Trump Thread - Second Term Edition

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Scarface281, Jan 25, 2025.

  1. astros123

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    Lower the prices for everyday items?
     
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    Why would Joe Biden do this??
     
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    If you believe higher tariff and banning cheap products is going to help reduce prices, that's your problem. Trump told you what he plans to do, he said it would reduce prices, you are the one who choose to believe him. People voting on issues they have no understanding of is the problem with democracy.
     
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    I've relegated myself to sit back and watch how the administration's actions affects our future. At this point, there is not much we can do. I figured, anyone that voted for him will get to see the consequences of their actions, and if they vote to put more republicans in power during the midterms, maybe, just maybe, I'm in the minority and have to accept that.

    I'll admit, it's getting silly to see a complaint on every single action that happens. OMG, Trump didn't keep his promise to do this and that in the 1st week. I mean, the man lies. Everything he says is always exaggerated.

    It sucks to sit back and watch and I guess I may be labeled as complacent, but at this point, I'm giving the administration an opportunity. So far, not impressed, but it's only been a week. However, I imagine that this is prelude for things to come, so I'm sure I'm going to be upset about it anyways. Might as well relax for a bit.
     
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    Same here, let Trump do what Trump will do, we will see what happens in two years.
     
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    Trump just shut down all federal spending and tens of millions of individuals dont have medicaid. Hospitals/providers have had their funding paused. Student loans arent being processed. Section 9 and other subsidies have stopped overnight. Hes stopped all grant money to hundreds of thousands of infrastructure projects leading to layoffs.

    Hes burning the entire government down and millions are going to suffer.
     
  8. ElPigto

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    Yes I understand. Several of my projects are funded by federal funding.

    Who's going to go and protest though? Will the protest do anything? Perhaps we need to reach out to our representatives (Senate and Congress) and see how much they care?

    It feels like the majority of Republicans are united so it just feels futile to do anything right now, at this instance.
     
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    Trump Federal-Assistance Freeze Sows Chaos Over Medicaid, Other Funding
    Judge temporarily blocks federal agencies from taking steps to implement the White House directive

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy...0?st=5jyvrj&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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    WASHINGTON—A sweeping White House order sought to pause billions of dollars in federal grants, loans and other financial assistance-programs, creating chaos and inviting lawsuits as states struggled to access funding portals dealing with Medicaid, emergency aid and low-income education and nutrition services.

    Minutes before the memo from the White House Office of Management and Budget was set to take effect, U.S. District Judge Loren AliKhan in Washington, D.C., temporarily blocked federal agencies from taking steps to implement it. Ruling at the end of a hastily-arranged court hearing Tuesday, AliKhan said she was issuing a brief stay that would “preserve the status quo” until she can hold an oral argument, which is set for Monday morning.

    The order came in response to a lawsuit filed earlier in the day by organizations who represent grant recipients.

    Earlier Tuesday, federal, state and local government officials sought to assess the impact of the order issued a night earlier by the White House Office of Management and Budget, which set off a temporary pause of the grants to give agencies time to review spending priorities.

    The White House said the order wouldn’t affect individual assistance programs such as Social Security and Medicare benefits, food stamps and welfare benefits.

    “This is not a blanket pause on federal assistance and grant programs from the Trump administration,” said White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt. “It is the responsibility of this president and this administration to be good stewards of taxpayer dollars.”

    The administration spent Tuesday trying to contain the fallout from the Monday night memo. The initial directive noted exemptions to Medicare, Social Security benefits and assistance provided directly to individuals—but gave few other clues as to what it covered or didn’t cover. The lack of information prompted government officials, lawmakers, nonprofits and others to parse through the two-page document to agencies—down to the footnotes—to try to understand which programs would be halted.

    Confusion was so widespread that OMB sent Capitol Hill staff an explanation Tuesday afternoon seeking to make clear to lawmakers that programs such as Medicaid and the Head Start preschool program would continue without delay, and that pauses for other programs might be as short as a day.

    Despite the White House assurances, several states said they had difficulty accessing funding portals from the federal government for Medicaid, the federal health insurance program for low-income Americans, community health centers and other funding.
    more at the link
     
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    The president does not have the power to pause congressionally mandated funding. Congress controls the purse. Its so weird how Republicans are suddenly okay with giving the president the power to unilaterally override Congress.

    "Small government" libertarians and conservatives suddenly wanna give unlimited power to the President. My issue is that theres no core ideology between these people. Its literally nothing but a cult.
     
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    White House Budget Freeze Tried to Flip Script on Busted Budget Process
    Presidents from both parties, including Trump, have let the budget grow and grow. The White House is trying to make changes on its own.

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy...4?st=X7nnZm&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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    WASHINGTON—A White House freeze on potentially hundreds of billions of dollars in government “financial assistance” was set to go into effect at 5 p.m. Tuesday. But the White House initially couldn’t explain which programs would be impacted, lawsuits were immediately filed and a federal judge intervened.

    Welcome to the Budget Chaos of 2025.

    Some of President Trump’s top advisers think the U.S. budget process has become so contorted—allowing the budget to become so bloated—that they need to wrest parts of it from Congress’s control to make changes that are long overdue.

    This is a tension that is not just playing out between Democrats and Republicans, but also inside each party, as the budget hawks often get outshouted—and outvoted—by big spenders in their respective parties.

    “What they are doing is what a lot of people do who are not in the government, which is zero-based budgeting,” said former Sen. Judd Gregg (R., N.H.), who at one time chaired the Senate Budget Committee. “You go back to the beginning and take a look at what you are spending money on, and then spend it. The way it usually works is, ‘spend the money, spend it all, and then ask for more next year.’”

    The exact number of affected programs was unclear Tuesday, and even White House officials appeared uncertain at times what was in and what was out.

    The U.S. government is projected to spend $7 trillion in the fiscal year that ends Sept. 30, according to the Congressional Budget Office, running a roughly $1.9 trillion deficit. In 2019, the last year before the pandemic, the government spent $4.4 trillion. A number of factors play into the huge change, including big increases in spending categories such as interest on the debt, an aging population and rising Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid costs. But spending bills approved by both parties only allowed the budget to grow even more each year.

    The government’s budget process is a hard one to arrest, which is one reason spending snowballs.
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  12. No Worries

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    Donald Trump is not a serious man.

    Donald Trump thinks that there is a giant water faucet from the Pacific Northwest that the state of California is refusing to turn on. This is just Donald Trump **** posting as the POTUS.

    One has to question whether Trump has lost his mind ... but ... I am very unsure how one could tell.


    Donald Trump claimed on Monday that the military was dispatched to California in an operation to provide water to fight the wildfires. This, of course, was the latest lie in years of Trump’s falsehoods on water-related issues—which has turned out to be a fixation for him.

    “The United States Military just entered the Great State of California and, under Emergency Powers, TURNED ON THE WATER flowing abundantly from the Pacific Northwest, and beyond,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “The days of putting a Fake Environmental argument, over the PEOPLE, are OVER. Enjoy the water, California!!!”

    A few hours later, the California Department of Water Resources corrected the record on its X account.

    “The military did not enter California. The federal government restarted federal water pumps after they were offline for maintenance for three days. State water supplies in Southern California remain plentiful,” the department said.

    Trump’s post was an apparent attempt to deepen the false narrative he has clung to for years: That California’s wildfires are a result of water conservation policies promoted by the environmental movement.

    During the latest crisis, state water officials and other scientific experts have made clear that water supply problems have not actually hurt ongoing firefighting operations.

    “Water supply has not hindered firefighting efforts. Reservoirs in California are at or above average storage levels for this time of year, thanks in part to years of proactive water management,” an Association of California Water Agencies statement said.
     
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    It is worrisome that other Republicans are not speaking out on it. At the same time, it's early in the administration's day and perhaps they want to be more calculated in how they deal with Trump. I imagine if their constituents start complaining, maybe we will see them bark more of actions like these. A lot of the individuals that would be impacted by halting medicaid payments were likely split on voting for Trump. Pretty damn silly to vote for someone that would be against your interests, but ignorance is a bliss.
     
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    Again if you want to make changes to the budget you have to go through congress. You do not get to unilaterally declare whatever you want. Quit posting your MAGA bs here
     
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    If it one thing this article tells me is that Trump loves chaos and that his administration will jump the gun on doing something rather than taking the time to truly implement the policy they intended for. The administration claims that it wasn't intended to hurt Medicare, SS, medicaid, etc but yet it did at least for today. Anyways, not saying that previous administrations have been immune to chaos, but if I remember anything about the first administration is that everything was always half-assed and not fully thought through.

    I do wonder though, don't states have matching funds to medicaid? So in theory shouldn't they be able to foot the bill temporarily while the federal government figures out their ****?
     
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    Medicaid isn't paused...
     
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    yes it was
     
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    the Medicaid portal is paused in every state which means providers and doctors cant confirm eligibility and people will be denied care. Providers also wont get paid on time

    Youre reading a foxnews article. Their objective is to rehab trump
     
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    White House tells federal workers they can quit now, get paid through September
    The email is the most sweeping effort yet by the new Trump administration to shrink the ranks of government employees.

    https://wapo.st/3PXucLH

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    The White House’s Office of Personnel Management sent an email blast Tuesday to civilian government employees offering them an easy way to quit with pay through Sept. 30, the most sweeping effort yet by the new Trump administration to shrink the ranks of the federal workforce.

    The email instructed employees to reply to the message saying they want to resign if they would like to take the offer, which would provide the incentive for workers who accept by Feb. 6, said an Office of Personnel Management spokesperson. Not all employees will be eligible, according to the spokesperson, who said some of the exemptions will be up to agency heads. Additional carveouts exist for immigration officers, some people in national security-focused roles, the Postal Service and the armed forces, the spokesperson said.

    The email blast comes less than a day after the White House announced a freeze on federal spending, which plunged the country into confusion and chaos, with food safety, crime prevention and housing assistance programs, among others, on the line. And it caps days of speculation after the personnel management office first start sending emails to groups of federal workers from an “hr” address, saying it was testing a “new distribution system.”

    This is a developing story. It will be updated.


     
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    He has no power to offer them money. They'll quit and then get stiffed when it comes to payment. Once you quit you're ineligible to file for unemployment.

    Jesus christ the Whitehouse is literally a scam. Boomers will be fooled
     
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