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Trump cabinet choices and other appointments

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Nov 12, 2024.

  1. couple of d's

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    A lot of hypocrisy going on in this thread. How many of those libs show up to votes in the house hammered? CNN said it so it must be true huh?
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Democrat politicians are the most politically correct politicians on the planet and make sure to be very careful with how they address rural and conservative America.

    Scott Jennings is a clown.

    Nook, I know this might sound shocking to you but yes I do believe that someone who believes in the core central premise of Nazi ideology and doe sa Seig Heil at a national inauguration might be.. hear me out...


    a Nazi.

    What makes my blood boil also is the same people who believe leftists are making fun of them and calling them vile are the same people who are comfortable using dehumanization rhetoric on a daily basis when it comes to women, migrants, Muslims, trans people etc.

    As someone who is a target of their dehuamzation I have a right to call these people out as Nazis. Don't be offended by this but I think this is some white privilege from you.
     
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  3. Kemahkeith

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    You sure know how to summarize a compliment???

    Sorry for your White privilege Nook. It's the best he can do, and I suspect even that was hard for him.
    Now take your white privilege to lunch at Starbs' and get yourself a pumpkin spiced latte, because that what we privileged do, I guess.
     
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  4. jo mama

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    trumpism.

    i bet donnie wished he had a straw!
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  5. fchowd0311

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    Yes many liberals have white privilege.

    I have other types of privileges. Born and raised with two parents that never divorced. Born and raised in a upper middle class neighborhood. This gave me advantages.

    See I ain't narcissist. I can tell you without hurting my identity I have certain privileges that allow me to have a professional career
     
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  6. Invisible Fan

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    WUT?

    You whites get pumpkin spiced latte all year while it's seasonal for the rest of us??
     
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  7. Kemahkeith

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    I don't do Starbucks just the first thing that came to mind.

    Let me try again:
    How about a 1/2 caf mocha latte with almond milk and minted foamed breastmilk from a Peruvian wet nurse.
     
  8. JuanValdez

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    I'm not sure who you are referring to here. Do we liberal posters here who are also members of the House?

    Besides that, idgaf if House members vote drunk. Congress is a deliberative body. They don't have to perform in real time on an emergency basis. That is definitely a job you can do with a drinking problem. Probably most of the time, you can be drunk as Sec of Defense too. Staff has got you. But there might come a day where things get crazy and you have to perform in real time. That's why people freaked out when Lloyd Austin was in the hospital.

    But anyway, he is confirmed already so I'm not challenging his fitness. And I'm not looking down my nose at him for having an alcohol addiction when I and half the country have had the same problem. But he did say he would quit because he recognized the risk in this role. So I do expect him to quit.
     
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  10. Kemahkeith

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    This guy gets humor.
     
  11. Nook

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    The Democrats don't need to be politically correct or careful with rural America or the working class. It makes Democratic leaders seem out of touch with these groups of people. When Democrats start listening to rural and working class voters, they will have more success with them.

    The Democrats for a long time were more in touch with these groups of voters and not so much right now.


    How so?

    His larger point is that the American people wanted something other than the status quo - they wanted change and the Democrats are out of touch on that point.


    Not every person that has said or holds some degree of bigoted opinions about Jews is a Nazi. Most people - and in this case, Americans, hold some degree of bigoted opinions. Pointing out the prejudices of a politician are important, but when it is the focus of an attack for years - it eventually doesn't move the needle.

    You can believe that he purposely did a seig heil - but it is a losing political position in 2025. Most people do not believe that he purposely did a seig heil and the continued focus on it just glosses over the larger and more honest issues with this administration.

    Who said anything about being offended? Maybe I missed something but I am surely not offended by your positions or opinions. I agree with a lot of them, not others - but believe they are worthy of discussion. I also believe that part of being a human being is being offended sometimes.

    I agree with you that many of the same people complaining about the Democratic party and being offended - are the same people that have ZERO issue dehumanizing large segments of the population and while many people don't like the term "white privledge", it exists and is alive and well.... just like male privlege.
     
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  12. Nook

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    I definitely have white privilege - and male privilege --- and other institutional privileges as well.

    All of these have a profound impact on the world around me and how I see and act and am treated.
     
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  13. fchowd0311

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    Brother if someone expressed the shahada of Islam I'm going to assume they are Muslim.

    And that's another thing. Why do I care about if it's a winning proposition or not to call people who wax lyrical about labeling 20 million humans as violent rapists and want to mass deport them, make blood libel claims about entire ethnic groups to fewer monger, wax lyrical about eugenics and passing down intelligence through making babies, advocate for white replacement theory, state to a group of far right Germans that they should not have to remember the past, claim that Jews collectively try to propagandize to make white people villains, do Seig Heils (emphatically with a determined facial expression) at a presidential inauguration a Nazi?


    It's not about it being a winning or losing proposition. Its about the reality we live in. Oh these people aren't 1940s Nazis with the invasions and death camps. They are just he 1930s Nazis spreading hate rhetoric, threatening mass deportations, weaponizing militia groups to create fear in minority communities. Amazing. That's good I guess?

    We as Americans are too soft labeling Nazis Nazis. Why? Because a lot of the core principles of American ideology has fascist xenophobic elements that marry well with Nazi ideology hence before entering the war, there was considerable support for Hitler. And it's why Hitler admired many aspects of American society. I guess it's too uncomfortable for us to be frank with reality.
     
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  14. Nook

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    If someone says that they believe in a single God I am not going to assume that they are Islam - as that is something that other faiths believe as well. I get your point though, I just disagree as sadly having prejudices against Jews isn't limited to Nazis.



    Why should you care? Because (at least as of November 2024) winning elections matter, in a winner take all system like the one we have. We can look back to Nazi Germany and there were groups on the left that would not unify together - and the right under Hindenberg did unite and we ended up with Adolf Hitler. The point being that sometimes election make a huge difference.


    If you just want to wax on how disappointed you are that the safe guards of our democracy have been under attack since 9-11 and that at this point we are close to an oligarchy with rampant corruption, disinformation and propaganda - as well as a compromised court---- I completely agree with you and I have very valid concerns about the future living in Alice in Wonderland where alternate facts are viewed as "truth" and gas lighting by the extreme right is a reality.

    I was looking at what I believed was a solution.

    This is a different sub topic. Having said that, fascism is appealing to a lot of people across all nations and creeds and that includes the United States. There were a fair number of Americans with German Nazi sympathies, including the largest car magnate (Ford), Americans top hero (Lindberg) and one of Americas top diplomats and businessmen (Kennedy). Hell - the man whom was to be King of England in the mid 30's was regularly hanging out in Germany with Nazi leaders while they were planning the "Final Solution".

    Having said all of that - I agree with you, people and in this case, Americans, do not like to hear how flawed they are and how flawed their country and history is. FWIW I have found Americans to be more honest about it than just about anywhere else ---- but the fact remains that many Americans do not want to be told that they and their country is exploitative and had hurt a lot of people and has a history of bigotry. They would far rather have someone tell them that their country is amazing at all times and that those pointing out or working to alleviate the problems ARE the problem.
     
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  15. Os Trigonum

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    Only the most disgusting and vile...

    New White House lawyer described himself as a "raging misogynist," praised Nazi theorist
    Nicholas Liu
    Wed, January 29, 2025 at 12:48 PM EST

    Andrew Kloster, the newly-appointed general counsel for the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), the federal government’s human resources agency, is a self-described "raging misogynist" who said that "slaves owe us reparations" and "consent is probably modern society's most pernicious fetish," according to a report from the Project on Government Oversight.

    During President Donald Trump's first term, Kloster served as associate director in the White House Office of Presidential Personnel and deputy general counsel at the OPM. He is also an active member of the Federalist Society, a right-wing legal network that in turn lauds him as a "fixture in the conservative movement."

    As the OPM's chief lawyer, he will have wide-ranging responsibility over Trump's plans to strip protections from professional civil servants, with the apparent goal of firing some of them to make an example and installing political loyalists in their place. The OPM has already issued a slew of memos issuing orders to that effect, in addition to implementing a total hiring freeze and banning pro-diversity practices, threatening "adverse consequences" for those who do not report attempts to conceal such practices by their colleagues.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-lawyer-described-himself-174838721.html
     
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    What is the level of privilege when you are white, but claim to be Indian? (casino Indian, not computer Indian)

     
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  18. fchowd0311

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    I don't worship politicians like you. Insult Warren all you want. She's a clown for that DNA test way back when.
     
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