I guess that's what I'm talking about, if he was going to be the absurd 7.9 or 8.3 fWAR guy that he was during that 2 season peak, then there's no question you bring him back at all costs....but when you are expecting high 3's low 4's....you probably already have that in Paredes. The outfield on the other hand.....that's in shambles.
No, just wait for Bregman to call and tell him offer is there until it isn’t, Spring training starts in a month… hope to see you there. Boras is using Astros as a floor.
I think the offer is good based on what I am assuming other offers are. That said, I still understand a player not wanting to be a FA at 37 and looking at how many other players have gotten 7+ year deals the recent past and is saying "Did I forget my deodorant or something?" Because of this, I think Crane could still make a small upgrade to the deal to help Alex and Boras save face and lubricate the deal as Ling as it has benefits for the Astros too. This is why I would like a small player option that is highly unlikely to becaccepted added to the offer. They can say- "see we worked them for something extra" and the Astros get reduced AAV that helps them pay for an additional player or two each year, but that 7th year probably doesn't mean anything and if it ends up getting taken, it's for a very small additional financial commitment. Win-win
I am TIRED of the Bregman saga. Wish the Astros could just move on from this distraction. It is not like he sets the baseball world on fire each season. It takes the whole season for him to finally reach a reasonable batting average. Good fielder but not worth all this drama.
Signing Bregs to over 6 years (or giving too much more than already offered) sets a bad precedent for future players going through negotiations. I don't want another to hold out for months thinking they'd get their deal eventually.
How does it impact the CBT calculations if Crane offers a team option for 2 more years: 6/156 + 2/44? Breggy (and Boras) can say they got $200MM but Astros retain the option.
I don’t think team options count against the CBT calculations. Player options do. I could be wrong. But if Bregman wants a $200M guarantee then team options won’t move the needle for him.
The reason I wouldn’t add to the deal if I was crane because that’s already overly generous to my way of thinking. 6/150 was my max number and I didn’t even like that- 5/130 seems reasonable. like I said I would have probably gone 10/200 just because it gets the AAV nice and low and there’s at least some chance he’s still playable at 37- even if it’s unlikely, but also would make it easier to unload at the back end of the last 4 years tailed off. But I would be sincere in telling Alex we loved him and would absolutely continue to do right by him in the future because he’d be our guy and those are so infrequent.
I really don't understand why some fans are so obsessed about him? He's on the wrong side of 30 and his power is only getting worst. He doesn't have the same opposite field power. Bregman isn't an altuve
In all deals, there is usually some wiggle room. If Bregman is serious, I’m sure the Astros might stretch up to $166 million. However, ther’re not going to pay $200 million or even $180 million, nor are they likely to add a seventh year to the contract without team options.
Which is why I'd do the opposite with a guy like Bregman the team doesn't need. Give him a hard time limit, then subtract a year from the offer with a new hard deadline. Keep going until you pull the offer entirely... and leak it so your offer can't be used as leverage
Alex Bregman is a grown man. After sitting in free agency for more than two months, he needs to take control of his contract negotiations. If he still is letting Boras drive his negotiations and teams are unwilling to meet his asking price, that’s on him at this point.
If I were the Astros, I’d add in some incentives that Bregman only achieves if he plays really well, such as winning MVP, receiving MVP votes, winning the Silver Slugger at 3B, winning a Gold Glove, etc.
In a way they kind of already did...they already made moves to do life without him. To his disadvantage he is still unemployed and I imagine the offer they had given him is still on a take it or leave it basis. He's lucky they haven't found an OF to spend their remaining budget on already or else I would imagine his offer would have been pulled completely. At this point I feel like he wants the deal but Boras will look weak as hell if two months after the Astros' initial (and very public) offer was still the best he could get.
I knew Boras and Bregman were using the Astros as leverage. They want the Astros to increase their offer and for that to be the baseline for the other teams. Their is a reason we’ve heard of no other offers. Bregman didn’t just all of a sudden had a change of heart. It is and will always be business with him. He’s not Altuve.
I bet Bregs does take the difference between $171 (which is $28.5/yr) and $156. $165 may do it as I said before, however, there may be a chance Bregs leaves it up to fate stating $171/6 or I continue to wait. That's $2.5 mil a year more going toward the tax, which I think is asking too much. Crane may be exploring options to either free up some extra money or, most likely, is standing still on the $156/6 offer while looking for alternatives to Bregman. The saga continues.
Agreed - there's a logical reason to to do inconvenient things to bring Bregman back. No reason to do so for Arenado - just go try to sign or trade for an outfielder at that point.
