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‘Bomb the Mexicans’ is the new ‘Build the Wall’

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Jul 3, 2023.

  1. adoo

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    For Repugs, ‘Bomb the Mexicans’ is the new ‘Build the Wall’



    When then-President Trump proposed shooting migrants in the legs and firing missiles into Mexico to destroy drug labs, he did so in private.

    Republican politicians are now expressing their bloodlust in public. As “Build the Wall” loses its edge, “Bomb the Mexicans” is becoming mainstream in the GOP.

    On last Monday, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis — Trump’s top challenger for the Republican presidential nomination — promised to deploy the U.S. military against transnational cartels in Mexico and advocated for executing people crossing the border who are carrying drugs. “You absolutely can use deadly force,” he said.

    All of the party’s top presidential contenders endorse a counterterrorism operation against cartels in Mexico, in some cases regardless of Mexico’s desires. Trump has called for “battle plans” targeting drug traffickers “just like we took down ISIS.”

    Republican bills introduced in both chambers of Congress seek to authorize military force in Mexico. Other legislation would designate cartels in Mexico as foreign terrorist organizations or classify fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, among other things.

    Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) has been sounding the alarm about Republican proposals that lay the groundwork for an invasion of Mexico. During a House Foreign Affairs committee meeting about a bill to classify fentanyl under the chemical weapons convention, he argued that it gave victims’ families false hope.

    “There’s literally a black hole in this piece of public policy that doesn’t address the American side at all,” Castro said. He was referring to the U.S. demand for drugs and government data showing U.S. citizens represent the vast majority of drug traffickers, despite the popular perception of cartels as Mexican.

    Republican legislation also ignores the fact that

    cartels in Mexico operate almost exclusively with guns smuggled in from the U.S. in defiance of Mexico’s gun laws, some of the most stringent in the world.
    Imagine if Mexico were planning to invade the U.S. to attack American gun companies, which make products known to kill tens of thousands of Mexicans each year and
    which refuse to take basic steps to stop gun smuggling. Instead, Mexico is merely suing the gun manufacturers.​
     
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  2. Astrodome

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    That's a reach. The cartels aren't "mexico". Good soundbite though.
     
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  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Adoo, this is a new low for you. Shamefully distorting things to elicit an emotional response. Be better.
     
  4. astros123

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    You have literally never been right about a single thing in this section. It's so fascinating how the biggest trolls pretend to be the smartest people in this section
     
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  5. Amiga

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    NO, but it's dangerously stupid since it has gained some popularity, and all the major GOP candidates are endorsing it. I would give it a low chance, but it's entirely plausible that this stupid rhetoric catches on within the base, and the politicians will have little choice but to 'act' on it.

    The justification is already here - it's about the cartels and not Mexico. Palm face.
     
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  6. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Many of my junior employees talk in absolutes. It's something I coach them on -- advising them that it weakens your argument/communications. I offer this valuable feedback to you as well. It can help you appear more credible.
     
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  7. adoo

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    this warrants repeating,

     
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  8. adoo

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    what part of this you don't understand ?

    Republican bills introduced in both chambers of Congress seek to authorize military force in Mexico.
    Other legislation would designate cartels in Mexico as foreign terrorist organizations or classify fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, among other things.​
     
  9. Astrodome

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    Cartels in Mexico. Not Mexico in general. Are you a cartel sympathizer?
     
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  10. No Worries

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    Can we bomb the meth labs in Arkansas and claim the Mexican Cartel ran them?

    Asking for a friend.
     
  11. adoo

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    The 14th Amendment of the US Constitution, adopted following the Civil War, declares that all "persons born or naturalized in the United States" are "citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

    Trump has been campaigninging that he would issue an executive order during his first day back at the White House in January 2025 instructing the federal government to deny citizenship to children
    with parents who are not American citizens or legal permanent residents.

    Diet Trump has also jumped in the mud, on Monday, announcing that he would seek to eliminate the constitutional guarantee of citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants born in the United States.

     
  12. Xerobull

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    In Mexico now. Can confirm. All are cartels. All are fentanyl. Send bomb now.

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    Unfortunately Trump ramped up anti-immigration rhetoric and it resonates tremendously with the base. It resonates much less than ending affirmative action nowadays.

    Obama did a great job on the border, before he was president is when the violence was really bad with the cartels. With the fentanyl epidemic Republicans are going to play it up
     
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    I don’t think Trumpers really comprehend what going to war with the cartels really means. In some parts of Mexico nobody works for the cartels and everyone works for the cartels at the same time.

    The cartels are essentially oligarchs and they often own a majority of many legit industries as well. Like are you going to raid the hotels in Cancun or Talum? It’s not like they are all just sitting in compounds in the desert by themselves or something.
     
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    For real. What is it with rural places and meth?
     
  17. Deckard

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    I assume that was an attempt to be funny. It wasn’t funny.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if trump and his bizarre “copycat” use this “crisis” with Mexico as an excuse to cut assistance to Ukraine. trump, because he’s Putin’s puppet, and DeSantis because he’s desperately trying to “out-trump” trump, anyway he can.
     
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  18. cheke64

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    Look at this, they've gone woke. Bomb them now.
     
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    Would it be okay if Canadians sent military craft over to West Virginia and bombed meth labs?

    Would it be okay if Mexico sent military strikes to New Mexico and bombed meth labs?

    They're just bombing and attacking drug labs, and not the United States.
     
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