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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, Jul 1, 2024.

  1. PatBev

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    Tari + a couple first for Ausar

    I want both twins
     
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  2. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Nah wouldn't move the needle enough for me just a backup wing who can shoot 3's but anyway there won't be more than 25 minutes for him on the team. The whole reason Brooks would be traded is because SG/SF is too crowded and talented right now. Wouldn't go out and acquire another one. Get me someone 6'10 who can shoot lights out, that will help most.

    We don't even have minutes for Whitmore when we're healthy.

    PF: Jabari (30) / Tari (18) / Green
    SF: Amen (32) /Tari (14) / Tate
    SG: Green (32) /Whitmore (16)

    That's without Brooks. You're going to take minutes from one of these key guys just for Cam Johnson? Personally not interested in that. Sticking to a Jeff Green or Aaron Holiday or Jock Landale replacement ensures we don't eat into key development minutes. We need a PG or a Big.
     
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  3. shakes05

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    You can't depend on Tari's health going into the playoffs and you want to give Tari 32 minutes?
     
  4. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    So give him 26 minutes and we still don't have minutes for the wings we have. I'm not really trying to promote or negotiate anything. It's just a math problem:

    PF: Jabari (26) / Tari (16) / Green
    SF: Amen (26) /Tari (8) / Tate
    SG: Green (30) /Whitmore (16)

    This would leave everyone unhappy with their minutes and still only leave like 20 minutes for Cam Johnson. Doesn't make any sense.

    If you get a 4/5 we can comfortably give them 24 minutes and while Jabari is out and Adams are resting they can get more minutes.

    Same with the PG spot we have a real need to reduce FVV's minutes and Holiday is a very upgradeable player. Sheppard is struggling. We don't have 3 people killing it at this position like Brooks/Amen/Tari at SF.

    If we get minutes at PG or big man it's a big upgrade. Brooks to Johnson is not nearly as big an upgrade. I think it would be a waste given how stocked we are at SF. Would love his shooting but there's no other position on the court where we're not in greater need for help.
     
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  5. OremLK

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    I wonder what it would take to get Conley from Minnesota? At first glance I would think "no way, they're still trying to compete", but man it's looking rough over there both from the seeding perspective and from the cap math perspective.
     
  6. luckyman76

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    Butler, I believe, is necessary to get Durant now and I want Durant now. This is like the Clippers PG13 Kawhi situation. Butler and KD have been chatting in the background and Durant has been lobbying Suns to get him. If he doesn't get traded, I think Suns hold onto disgruntled Durant until offseason. If we get Butler, Durant will flip ****. That is the catalyst. I want Butler over 3 yrs Brooks, expiring Jock, Unc Jeff, Tate, and even Adams. This is about maximizing assets. Those contracts give us nothing now and in the future. Butler is a tradeable asset in the future that we can keep or spin in a Fox or other deal without compiling contracts. FVV and Brooks were there to rent our cap and not long-term solutions. I want to reup Jabari and that has more value. Butler is exactly the type of player that can help us and is efficient. He can play our way and provides position versatility. We can stagger his minutes so he is starting but he could also flourish in a 6th man role. He is a gritty player and provides another ridiculous wing to our collection in the playoffs. Reed needs to be our Paxson. He needs to go ham in blowouts and dirty minutes and build up that readiness and amnesia.
     
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  7. Rokman

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    I've said it before but I'll say it again, I just don't see anyone out there that is going to make a big enough difference without an over pay. I personally like everyone on the team and think they have all stepped up at times when called upon. Would love to see them in the playoffs but also think some of the bench would fall short when the intensity really gets high. I don't know, I'm on the fence. Trusting Stone and Udoka to do what's right at the trade deadline.
     
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  8. withmustard

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    I agree. Another angle to look at would be trying to move up in the draft. Package a player and Phoenix pick for a pick in the 7-10 range, assuming Phoenix ends up at 15 or 16. It's too bad Nick Richards is already beasting for Phoenix.

    I know it would hurt to lose a rotational player, but we are going to have to consolidate our talent or kick the can down the road to extend the window before everybody gets paid. This might be on overpay but a hypothetical example would be Phoenix pick and Cam for Bulls pick. This may seem steep considering Phoenix only has few more wins than the Bulls, but Chicago will likely fall and Phoenix will likely rise. I doubt Bulls would do this as I expect them to tank post trade deadline. On the other hand, Whitmore getting 38 minutes a game could easily average 25.
     
  9. A_3PO

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    Why do you want Conley on the Rockets?
     
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    Anthony Black and Cory Joseph (small filler)
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    Whitmore and Tate (FRP and or SRP(s) if needed)

    Cam gives the Magic some offensive bench power and Tate is playable filler on an expiring contract as a glue guy.

    Amen success's leaves a hole at the point. Black fills the need in every aspect & at 6’7”. A Green / Black / Sheppard backcourt has a bright future and FVV can bridge the gap till we get there. Maybe Brooks can slide down to fill in his starter’s minutes as well at the backup 2/3 when we are healthy.

    Black could be our long term solution at the point. Black Green Thompson Smith & Sengun with Reed and Tari filling in is a lot of talent that blends well together.

    Coach would love to have Anthony Black on his team because he is a fundamental, defensive minded, highly intelligent player that is over sized for his position. Playing next to Green or Shepherd is perfect. Anthony / Amen / Tari OMG.

    He is not a max player and we should be able to retain him long term. Just a great fit.
     
  11. topfive

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    We'd have to make sure to acquire his walker as well. Dude is older than KD.
     
  12. colorist

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    I am an Anthony Black optimist, but the Rockets need to surround Amen/Jalen/Alpi with shooters. Jalen Suggs is the target.

    Cam is untouchable if he's okay with coming off the bench long term. I would only entertain trading him otherwise.
     
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    Not that Jalen is available, but even if he was, he just signed a $30 million/year extension. That gets in the way of us signing the rest of our young guys to contracts. That's not the play.
     
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    So essentially you want to trade Cam and Tate along with picks for Anthony Black? Lmao thank goodness you’re not in anyone’s front office
     
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    Wouldn't thing to ever trade a 20 year old who can score 25 a game with starter minutes. That dude is already damn near an All-Star.
     
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  16. OremLK

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    Rental to back up FVV and help mentor our other young backcourt players
     
  17. withmustard

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    So which player would you prefer to trade instead, Tari, Jalen, Amen or Jabari? We can't pay them all. If we have a real shot at winning a ring in the next two years and Cam is happy, then sure keep him for 2 years and then let him walk. For the record, this was all hypothetical, but I think most posters would agree that we can't afford to pay all of the core 6.
     
  18. jch1911

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    The AI (CoPilot) has spoken

    Who would be best trade acquisition for the Houston Rockets?
    Copilot said:
    Copilot

    The Houston Rockets are currently in a strong position with a mix of young talent and experienced players. To further solidify their status as contenders, they could benefit from acquiring a player who complements their existing roster and addresses any gaps.

    Potential Trade Acquisition: De'Aaron Fox
    One of the best trade acquisitions for the Houston Rockets could be De'Aaron Fox from the Sacramento Kings. Here’s why:

    • Dynamic Playmaking: Fox is known for his speed and ability to push the pace, which would fit well with the Rockets' up-tempo style of play
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    • Veteran Leadership: Despite being relatively young, Fox has significant NBA experience and can provide leadership to the Rockets' young core
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    • Offensive Versatility: Pairing Fox with Jalen Green and Alperen Şengün would create a versatile and explosive offensive trio, enhancing the Rockets' scoring options
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    Strategic Fit
    Fox’s ability to thrive in transition and his clutch scoring would address some of the Rockets' needs, particularly in high-pressure situations. His presence could elevate the team’s performance and help them make a deeper playoff run.

    Considerations
    While acquiring a player like Fox would be beneficial, the Rockets would need to consider the assets they are willing to trade. Balancing the immediate benefits with long-term team development is crucial.

    If you have any more questions or need further details, feel free to ask!

    TBF, Copilot used this article: https://clutchpoints.com/2-best-trades-rockets-must-make-2025-nba-trade-deadline
     
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  19. NotTooYoungtoContend

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    Would you trade the 2027 Brooklyn pick swap for Cam Johnson?

    I believe Brooklyn would make this move. Jock, Jeff Green and Brooklyn gets control of their 2027 pick in exchange for Cam Johnson. Would you make that deal?
     
  20. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Can we chill with the exaggeration of "we can't pay them all"?

    We have literally years to figure this out and tons of flexibility, there's no imminent issue. Jabari and Tari's extensions wouldn't hit the cap for another 1.5 seasons and we can just go to RFA then trade them for expiring contracts/picks/depth if we don't want them.

    We don't have to trade anyone this year just because it might be an issue in 2.5 years. That's 5 deadlines. We're good. We can decline FVV and dump Brooks for free with his net positive but declining contract.

    It's just not a real thing for people to trade high-peak 20 year olds because someone has a feeling they're sure of exactly what he's going to be. That's a thing we do for imagination as fans. It's not a real thing anyone considers. The organization is not considering trading Cam because of a potential financial problem 2 years out.

    If you're trying to create realistic scenarios, you have to take the team's actual position into consideration rather than which direction you think we should go. They want to chill on this roster and seriously don't want to touch the core. They've said it, they've shown it. Lots of GM's/Coaches would have brought a big name in this last summer. They're serious about this core and it's been evidenced for a long time now. I don't think it's realistic that they trade a core player right now unless that player wants out.
     
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