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Texans FIRE Bobby Slowik

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  1. Holliday

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    As an Ohio State fan I would hate to lose Kelly, his hands were all over the Ohio State run game improvements this season over prior seasons. That's why Day brought him in, is because Ohio State's run game was stagnant and not scaring anyone and Kelly revitalized it back to standard even with Ohio State missing their AA offensive tackle and the Rimington award winning center.

    So it does make sense if the Texans are focused on fixing the ground game and hoping that translates to an improved passing game. The lack of a real ground game threat this year often rendered the Texans one dimensional which put their already subpar offensive line in an even bigger hole as defenses didn't have to commit extra resources to stopping the run and allowed the defensive line to tee off when it inevitably became 3rd and long.
     
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    Kenyon Green looked like a competent guard this preseason as well. Yeah hell eff no.

    Also, Landry brought up a good point. Why is everyone on the offensive staff catching strays but Jerod. He was the QB coach and CJ clearly regressed as a QB. Not play calling but ish like holding onto the ball too long, mentally not 100% being prepared for year two. Why is Jerod immune to criticism?
     
  4. Fulgore

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    Hoping for Chip Kelly or Pederson. Someone who’s been there and done that.
     
  5. Fyreball

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    It's suspicious, but I could also see someone like DeMeco wanting to do a guy like Jerrod a solid, and not throw him under the bus. Instead, by keeping his name on the list, and putting out pieces like this, it keeps Jerrod clean and allows him to go out and pursue other opportunities while still being employed. It also allows the new OC to come in and assess him independently.
     
  6. J.R.

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    Yeah, don’t get the hype (besides his name being Kubiak)

    From “Baby Shanahan” to Baby Kubiak?
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    13-14: Vikings Offensive Quality Control
    16-18: Broncos offensive assistant
    19-20: Vikings QBs
    21: Vikings OC
    22: Broncos QBs/Pass Game Coordinator
    23: 49ers Pass Game Coordinator
    24: Saints OC

    Maybe hlm can tell us [​IMG]

    https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/what-is-new-orleans-doing.324138/

    That thread died after 2 weeks, never to be heard from again.
    (Yes, Carr only played in 10 games & Olave 8 but still)


    So…
    Hire a good OC, prepare to lose him after a year or two
    Hire a bad OC, fire him after a year or two
    Hire an old head/recycled HC (Frank Reich, Mike McCarthy, Doug Pederson, Jay/Jon Gruden, Anthony Lynn, Darrell Bevell, Scott/Norv Turner, …)

    Timing kinda sucks. No guarantee they get fired but next year or two could be looking at Steichen, Daboll, Stefanski, McDaniel.

    Not problem but for lack of a better word, problem with defensive guys, gonna cycle through OCs. Like Todd Bowles: Lost Dave Canales, just lost Liam Coen, will be on his fourth OC in as many seasons.

    Defensive HCs Eberflus, Saleh, Mayo, Pierce, Allen fired
    (Offensive HCs McCarthy, Pederson parted ways/fired)


    •Defensive HC McDermott will probably lose Joe Brady within 3 years (but also have Josh Allen so maybe it doesn’t matter); 4 OCs in 8 seasons with Bills (Dennison, Daboll, Dorsey, Brady)

    •Defensive HC Bowles mentioned above; 4 OCs in 4 seasons—Leftwich, Canales, Coen, new guy; 3 OCs in 4 years during HC years with Jets

    •Defensive HC Quinn will probably lose Kingsbury within 3 years; 3 OCs in 6 years during HC years with Falcons (Shanahan, Sarkisian, Koetter)

    •Defensive HC Gannon—OC Drew Petzing (got an interview or two)

    •Defensive HC Tomlin—OC Arthur Smith (got an interview or two); 5 OCs in 18 years (Arians, Haley, Fitchner, Canada, Smith)

    •ST/Defensive HC Harbaugh—OC Todd Monken (got an interview or two); 7 OCs in 17 years (Cameron, Caldwell, Kubiak, Trestman, Mornhinweg, Roman, Monken)

    •Defensive HC MacDonald—fired his OC Ryan Grubb after one year

    •Defensive HC Vrabel—probably not at risk of ever losing McDaniels; 4 OCs in 6 years during HC years with Titans (LaFleur, Smith, Downing, Kelly)

    •Defensive HC Morris—OC Zac Robinson; 1 OC in 3 years during HC years with Tampa

    https://www.nfl.com/news/ben-johnso...ung-coaches-to-watch-in-2025-nfl-hiring-cycle

    Commanders AHC/offensive pass game coordinator Brian Johnson, 37: A prolific college quarterback at Utah and cover model for the NCAA Football 10 video game, Johnson got his start in coaching at his alma mater and became the youngest FBS offensive coordinator at age 24. He has mentored the likes of Dak Prescott, Kyle Trask and Jalen Hurts (whose dad, Averion, coincidentally coached Johnson). His first NFL OC opportunity last year in Philadelphia went sideways for a variety of reasons; he still interviewed for two head-coaching jobs (Falcons, Titans) last January before heading to Washington. Commanders head coach Dan Quinn has wrapped his arms around Johnson, who presents in the team meeting every week, helps out in all phases of the offense and game management, and is working in an offense under Kliff Kingsbury that's more in line with what Johnson has been accustomed to through his football life.

    Jaguars OC Press Taylor, 36: A two-time national juco champion as a QB and the brother of Bengals coach Zac Taylor, Press broke into the NFL as a quality control coach in Philadelphia in 2013 and made a notable contribution to the Eagles' Super Bowl LII win: Doug Pederson credited Taylor with the idea for the "Philly Special." Reunited in 2022 with Pederson in Jacksonville, Taylor built the offense and quietly called plays in the second halves of games as the Jaguars made a surprise playoff run. Evan Engram, Christian Kirk and Zay Jones have all enjoyed career years playing in Jacksonville's offense. This has been an ugly season for the Jags, who are 2-9 -- including a league-high six one-score losses -- and are now playing without injured quarterback Trevor Lawrence. But Taylor remains a young assistant worth watching.

    Others
    •Broncos RB coach Lou Ayeni, 43
    •Chiefs pass game coordinator Joe Bleymaier, 42
    •Rams TE coach/pass game coordinator Nick Caley, 41
    •Buccaneers OL coach Kevin Carberry, 41
    Browns OC Ken Dorsey, 43
    •Jets passing game coordinator Todd Downing, 44
    •Broncos TE coach Declan Doyle, 28
    •Chiefs WR coach Connor Embree, 33
    •Lions passing game coordinator Tanner Engstrand, 42
    •49ers TE coach Brian Fleury, 44
    •Chiefs QB coach David Girardi, 36
    •Jaguars WR coach Chad Hall, 38
    •49ers WR coach Leonard Hankerson, 35
    •Titans QB coach Bo Hardegree, 40
    •Saints QB coach Andrew Janocko, 36
    •Texans QB coach Jerrod Johnson, 36
    •Giants TE coach Tim Kelly, 38
    •Falcons TE coach Kevin Koger, 34
    •49ers offensive passing game specialist Klay Kubiak, 36
    •Saints OC Klint Kubiak, 37
    •Vikings OL coach Chris Kuper, 41
    •Ravens WR coach Greg Lewis, 44
    •Buccaneers QB coach Thaddeus Lewis, 37
    •Colts TE coach Tom Manning, 41
    •Patriots QB coach T.C. McCartney, 35
    •Vikings senior offensive assistant Chris O'Hara, 34
    •Seahawks offensive passing game coordinator Jake Peetz, 41
    •Commanders QB coach Tavita Pritchard, 37
    •Rams offensive assistant/pass game specialist Nate Scheelhaase, 34
    •Cardinals assistant QB coach Connor Senger, 29
    •Raiders TE coach Luke Steckel, 39
    •Ravens director of football strategy/assistant QB coach Daniel Stern, 30
    •Colts passing game coordinator Alex Tanney, 37
    •Cardinals passing game coordinator/WR coach Drew Terrell, 33
    •Giants offensive passing game coordinator/QB coach Shea Tierney, 38
    •Cowboys QB coach Scott Tolzien, 37
    •Colts QB coach Cam Turner, 37
    •Raiders interim OC Scott Turner, 42
    •Vikings assistant OC/assistant QB coach Grant Udinski, 28
    •Broncos QB coach Davis Webb, 29
    •Falcons offensive assistant/assistant QB coach D.J. Williams, 32
    •Cardinals QB coach Israel Woolfork, 33
    •Falcons QB coach (and Texans legend™) T.J. Yates, 37
     
  7. J.R.

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    Who could replace Bobby Slowik as Texans' offensive coordinator? A look at several candidates
    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/offensive-coordinator-candidates-20054175.php

    Jerod Johnson | Current job: Texans quarterbacks coach

    Analysis: Johnson, a former Humble High School standout, was once thought to be the heir apparent to Slowik after Stroud had arguably the most successful rookie seasons of all-time in 2023, when he finished with the most passing yards per game and the best touchdown to interception ratio.

    After interviewing for several offensive coordinator jobs last year, Johnson remained in Houston and signed an extension and received a raise.

    But some of that hype wore off a bit after Stroud and the offense struggled in 2024. Stroud finished with 3,727 passing yards, 20 touchdowns and 12 interceptions and an 87 passer rating, which were all drops from his rookie season.

    Not all the blame can be placed on Johnson, who is a possible candidate for the Jets' offensive coordinator job. While Stroud's offensive line failed to protect him, his drop in numbers will unfortunately be tied to his position coach.

    Before joining the Texans in 2023, Johnson was an assistant quarterbacks coach for the Vikings under Kevin O'Connell, who is thought to be the front-runner for NFL coach of the year. In Minnesota, Johnson had a ton of success.

    A source told the Chronicle this offseason that the Texans allowed Johnson to call plays some in the preseason.

    Chip Kelly | Current job: Ohio State offensive coordinator

    Analysis: Kelly is the hottest name on the market, coming off a national championship with the Buckeyes last week in his first season in Columbus. Under Kelly, the Buckeyes had the 12th-ranked scoring offense, averaging 35.7 points per game, and beat Notre Dame to win the inaugural 12-team playoff.

    Kelly also has NFL experience. He was the Eagles' head coach from 2013-15, where he coached Ryans for three seasons.
    At his introductory press conference, Ryans spoke about what he learned from all his former coaches, including Kelly.

    "He was a master motivator, but he was always an innovator," Ryans said of Kelly in 2023. "Chip Kelly, he was always on the cutting edge. Always looking for ways to get better with sports science, technology."

    So there's a connection.

    Kelly also coached one year in San Francisco before he was fired after a 2-14 season in 2016.
    What could keep him away from the Texans are offers to be a head coach, or a chance at back-to-back national titles.

    Mike LaFleur | Current job: Los Angles Rams offensive coordinator

    Nick Caley | Current job: Los Angeles Rams passing game coordinator


    Analysis: Caley has been widely talked about in league circles during this hiring cycle. And widely-talked-about names often get first dibs at jobs.

    Caley is the tight ends coach and passing game coordinator for the Rams, who had one of the NFL's best passing attacks. Matt Stafford had a solid season, throwing 20 touchdowns and just eight interceptions.

    Caley went to John Carroll University, the same school Texans general manager Nick Caserio attended. He was also an offensive assistant with the Patriots when Caserio was in New England. So he has connections to Houston.

    However, several reports indicated Caley was a favorite to be the Jets' OC under Aaron Glenn.

    Mike McCarthy | Current job: Unemployed

    Josh McCown | Current job: Minnesota Vikings quarterback coach


    Analysis: McCown, who played in Houston in 2020 before retiring, nearly got the Texans' head coaching job in 2022 before Caserio pivoted to Lovie Smith.

    McCown didn't have much success as the quarterbacks coach with the Carolina Panthers in 2023. But he was hired to coach quarterbacks with the Vikings under Kevin O'Connell and did a great job with Sam Darnold.

    Whether it would work in Houston after what played out three years ago is unclear. But many around the league expect McCown to be a head coach someday, and at the least an offensive coordinator soon.

    Doug Pederson | Current job: Unemployed.

    Klint Kubiak | Current job: New Orleans Saints offensive coordinator


    Other notable names
    • Byron Leftwitch, former Tampa Bay offensive coordinator
    • Shane Day, former Texans offensive assistant and now quarterbacks coach for the Chargers
    • Tee Martin, Baltimore Ravens quarterbacks' coach
     
  8. steveng125

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    Gary the legend
     
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    CJ already stated that he wants to run more next year. Need a coach that can be innovative and can adapt to modern defensive schemes. Bobby had no idea on how to adapt and adjust. It's like he was the Jeff Fisher of offense, afraid of changing.
     
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    Peace out homies!!!
     
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    Maybe not all the coaches deserve blame for the problems the offense had this year. I put almost all the blame on the poor offensive line. Nick and DeMeco see things we don’t see. They should know who deserves the blame. The QB coach probably doesn’t deserve much blame for poor offensive line play. Many of the problems CJ had this year can probably be blamed on a large part because of the terrible offensive line.

    Someone appears to have made poor decisions in putting this offensive line together. They weren’t nearly as good as the organization thought they would be. I blame Nick, the OC, and the line coach. Now, the OC and the line coach are gone.

    It could be that Jerod and CJ are close, so the organization is going to allow the new OC make the decision on whether Jerod stays or goes.

    Bottom line is that the offense is going to get a fresh start next season and that’s a good thing.
     
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    I never liked the hire. I don't think he's a bad coach, he just wasn't ready.
     
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    I don’t need Josh McCown in my life. He may turn out to be the best offensive mind ever. I’m willing to take the risk.
     
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    Best news I got today. DeMeco knew all along.
     
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    My vote ( like I had one) is Kelly. Loads of experience. Fatherly demeanor. Just won it all (in college) at OSU. CJ's favorite school. What's not to like.
     
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    Wow, I didn't think DeMeco would do it, but he did. Leading a team means making the tough calls and this was one that Coach Ryans needed to make--well done, its not easy letting a friend go (I've had to do it), but it was the right call.

    Really hoping for an experienced OC, who is an innovator and can make adjustments in game, at halftime, between games, all the fking time. Bobby couldn't adjust a TV channel even back when we only had 3 to choose from. It was too soon for him. He needs to go get some more experience.

    OL: I'm still calling for (pleading for even) Mike Munchak. Dude was an Oilers legend and would bring credibility and toughness to our OL and offense. We may have to retool most of the players, but I'm ready to give CJ and Joe a set of body guard/gladiators that clear the arena and win the war in the trenches.

    Phase 1 of revamping the offense is underway, next hirings will be key to winning next year.
     
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    I want nick caley or dave ragone from the rams. Nick caley will get tons of OC offers though
     
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    Huh?!??!?!??????!!!?!!!!??!?!!!!?!!?!?!!?!!!?!!!!?!!?!!?!?!?!?!
     
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    Lol I actually sounded it all out.
     
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