Elon is probably not a Nazi, but you have to understand the reason he did that. He has to acknowledge those that are that put him in power. This is similar to him pretending to be a gamer last week. He's not a real gamer like he's not a real Nazi, but many of the people that voted for him are. The one that posts most prominently in this thread is one.
its a good thing elon wasnt wearing a tan suit when he did a sieg heil salute while standing at a podium with the presidential seal on it or the right wingers would be REALLY mad.
You say crazy, I say he has done a lot things on day one which should be common sense. Maybe in some cases the pendulum swings too far back, tbd, but yeah, the last 4 years were pretty crazy when it comes to actively encouraged illegal immigration, transgender, DEI, woke mania. Most people had enough, which is why the side that pushed all that BS lost.
Meanwhile, the best the hateful socialists have - who are very much anti-Israel and anti-Jews, just like the national socialists were - is some almost two year old tweet that could be misunderstood, and a weird jerky hand gesture accompanied by saying "my heart goes out to you". Clearly, he is Hitler. WORST HITLER EVER. You can keep calling everyone a Nazi - Musk, Trump, me, every non-leftist poster on this site - all it does is show that you are projecting. You are the ones whose hearts are full of hate, you are the ones who support those socialists who side with Hamas. You are the enemies of the Jewish people.
Probably right but in a way that makes it worse. I think he mostly just thinks all every day about what he can do that makes people outraged because he’s a classic narcissist with deep seated daddy issues. It’s the same as the little boy who sets the rug on fire to get his parents to pay attention to him.
To address the allegations that Elon Musk is against Jewish people or a white supremacist, it's important to examine a range of actions, statements, and contexts rather than isolated incidents. Here is a comprehensive case against these allegations: Personal Connections and Advocacy: Elon Musk has personal ties to Jewish culture and individuals. He has described himself as "aspirationally Jewish" and has noted that many of his friends are Jewish. Musk has also visited Israel, including a significant trip in November 2023 where he met with high-profile figures like Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Isaac Herzog. During this visit, he showed solidarity with Israeli victims of violence by wearing a dog tag given to him by a father of a hostage taken by Hamas, which he continued to wear publicly afterward. His actions, like visiting Auschwitz-Birkenau in January 2024, further illustrate his engagement with Jewish history and the fight against antisemitism. Musk expressed that the visit to the Holocaust site was profoundly impactful, stating that the tragedy "hits you much more in the heart when you see it in person". Public Stance on Antisemitism: Musk has publicly condemned antisemitism on numerous occasions. After facing backlash for endorsing an antisemitic post on X in November 2023, he clarified his position, apologized for his comments, and described them as "the dumbest" he had ever made, emphasizing that he is against antisemitism. Post-visit to Israel, Musk reiterated his stance against antisemitism, stating that his companies work on promoting peace and understanding, and he has explicitly mentioned his opposition to any form of hate speech, including antisemitism. Business and Platform Management: Under Musk's leadership, X (formerly Twitter) has taken steps to address hate speech, including the removal of verification from accounts promoting hate, such as those of antisemites, as noted by some observers. Musk has also engaged with the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), despite past tensions, by later thanking them for supporting advertisement on X, indicating a willingness to work with organizations combating antisemitism. Countering the Narrative: The narrative that Musk is a white supremacist often stems from specific incidents, like his endorsement of controversial posts on X. However, these incidents have been met with apologies and clarifications from Musk, indicating they do not reflect his broader beliefs or policies. Musk's business history, particularly with Tesla and SpaceX, shows a company culture and product line that are inclusive and aimed at a global market, not aligned with white supremacist ideologies. Contextualizing Controversies: Musk's controversial statements or endorsements, particularly on social media, have often been part of broader discussions on free speech, where he advocates for an open platform. His approach has sometimes been criticized for allowing hate speech to proliferate, but his intent has been framed as supporting free speech rather than promoting racist or antisemitic views. Musk has also publicly criticized what he perceives as discriminatory practices against any racial or ethnic group, which does not align with white supremacist views but rather a critique of perceived biases in societal institutions. Conclusion: While Musk's tenure at X has seen moments where he might have inadvertently given a platform to hate speech, his overall actions, personal relationships, and public statements suggest he does not harbor antisemitic or white supremacist views. Instead, they show someone engaged with Jewish culture, concerned about global peace, and willing to address the criticisms he faces by taking corrective actions. This nuanced view requires looking beyond sensational headlines to understand Musk's broader contributions and intentions.
Elon Musk has faced allegations of antisemitism and white supremacist sympathies, largely stemming from his actions on X (formerly Twitter), where he has engaged with controversial figures and allowed certain content to flourish under his leadership. However, there is a strong case against these allegations when considering his actions, statements, and history in a broader context: 1. Musk’s Business Ventures and Personal Relationships Show No Antisemitic Bias Tesla and SpaceX are diverse, meritocratic organizations: Musk has built companies that hire employees based on talent and contribution, without any apparent racial or religious bias. Many of his closest business partners, investors, and executives have been Jewish. Collaboration with Jewish professionals: Tesla’s former CFO Zachary Kirkhorn, investor Ron Baron (who has heavily backed Tesla), and various Jewish engineers and executives have played critical roles in Musk’s companies. Musk’s friendship and collaborations with Jewish figures: He has engaged with Jewish individuals such as Lex Fridman (an AI researcher and podcaster of Jewish descent), and others in the tech and business world. 2. Musk Has Expressly Denounced Antisemitism and White Supremacy Public statements rejecting antisemitism: Musk has explicitly stated that he does not support antisemitism. When accused of it, he has denied the allegations and has taken actions that contradict such claims. Condemnation of white supremacy: There are no records of Musk ever expressing support for white supremacist ideology. On multiple occasions, he has denounced racist extremism. Support for diversity and inclusion: Musk's companies operate globally and employ people from all backgrounds, including Jewish individuals, showing no pattern of racial or religious discrimination. 3. The Controversy on X (Twitter) Does Not Prove Antisemitism Free speech absolutism vs. personal endorsement: Musk has advocated for free speech and has resisted censorship, leading to claims that he enables hateful content. However, this is a broader free speech stance rather than an endorsement of antisemitic or racist views. Crackdown on extremist accounts: Despite criticism, X has removed multiple extremist accounts and suspended users promoting hate speech, demonstrating that Musk does not support a lawless platform. Support for Israel in the October 7 attacks: After the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel in October 2023, Musk condemned the attack and offered support for Israel, even visiting the country and meeting with officials. 4. Musk’s Background and Multicultural Upbringing Make Him an Unlikely White Supremacist South African heritage and anti-apartheid stance: Musk grew up in South Africa and has spoken about the injustices of apartheid. His upbringing in a diverse environment makes him an unlikely advocate for racial supremacist ideologies. Global business interests and partnerships: Musk’s businesses rely on international cooperation, and he frequently engages with diverse cultures, including working with partners from China, the Middle East, and Israel. 5. Misinterpretations and Political Motivations Target of political attacks: Musk’s high profile, influence, and political shifts (moving from center-left to libertarian/conservative views) have made him a target of ideological attacks. Some accusations may be politically motivated rather than based on factual evidence. Misinterpretation of social media interactions: Musk has engaged with a wide range of users on X, sometimes amplifying controversial voices. However, this does not necessarily reflect his own views—he has also engaged with and promoted people from various backgrounds, including Jewish thinkers. Conclusion While Musk’s engagement on social media has occasionally been controversial, there is no substantial evidence that he harbors antisemitic or white supremacist beliefs. His business actions, statements, and diverse professional relationships contradict these allegations. The claims against him often stem from a misinterpretation of his free speech stance, political attacks, or social media dynamics rather than concrete proof of bias.
I played tennis with 8 friends tonight. All Jewish (I'm almost the only non-Jewish person in my neighborhood). They all said elon musk clearly did a sieg heil nazi salute and anyone who says otherwise is lying or ignorant.
No, I am not saying that. I do not care about if this was a Nazi Salute or not. We can discuss this for eternity, but it doesn't change a thing, is it awkward gesture is it a nazi salute? who cares. This gesture does not make him/Trump the bad people they are, it is the real things they are doing. I care about the other real stuff he, Trump and others are doing. We should put our energy in criticizing those and battling those. These things stuff are just distractions, making us, the media focus on unimportant things. While they puss their agenda.
The leftists, including the media, lie about this being a Nazi salute - they also lie about "the other stuff", @arno_ed. You are a good guy, but you are still falling for it.
Funny, I feel the same about you . The answer is probably in the middle somewhere. Let's just agree to disagree on these subjects and agree on most Basketball and Soccer subjects, like the greatness of Sengun & Robben.
WaPo The missing context from the Elon Musk salute We can’t have a functioning democracy if we think our opponents are evil. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/21/musk-inauguration-salute/
The more anyone goes to all the trouble to disprove that it was a Nazi salute, or claims that the left is making misleading claims about the video is self-owning. It's kind of incredible to watch.
We get proof that leftists and Islamists don't have a sense of humour every day. That's also why they can't do memes.
After watching the full vid, all I could think was...has Ozempyc spiked in price again that the world's richest man can't get enough? Dude gotta stop using stress eating as a crutch. Maybe pick up smoking or even nicotine patches to show it off as some 4D brain hack that vibes with Silly Valley culture.
