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[PSA] Hitler & Nazis were actually BAD, ya'll!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Oct 25, 2024.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    lmao

    from the perspective of an absolutely delusional, uneducated, hateful socialist who failed at life and lives in his van, everyone who is not a loser like that must be a Nazi

    only way it all makes sense to him
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    @AroundTheWorld posted someone calling Musk a great friend to the Jewish people.

    What's the saying about "Whith friends like these...
     
  3. durvasa

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    Musk has nothing to gain with expressing solidarity with Nazis. I get that it's really tempting to make that connection, because he is such a hated figure now, but it really doesn't make sense.

    He was either trolling to enrage people on the Left, or (most likely) he made a weird gesture because he's just really awkward on the stage giving speeches.
     
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  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Someone gets it.
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    I tried to understand that dialogue and went back and read it again...I still don't understand what they are talking about. But the guy shitposts all day, there is going to be some dumb crap there. Overall, it is clear he is a friend to the Jewish people.
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    You are making a lot more sense than the hysterical people here. If you watched him during the actual inauguration, you can just see he is super weird with his facial expressions and gestures. A nerd on the spectrum trying to act cool...recipe for misunderstandings, quite clearly.

    I played tennis with 7 friends tonight. All Jewish (I'm almost the only non-Jewish person in my neighborhood). They all said they are not offended by it and clearly it was a stupid, awkward gesture, nothing more.
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Musk is saying that the idea that Western Jews are pushing a hatred against white people is the truth.

    Is that a great friend of the Jewish people?
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    See above - dude shitposts all day, there is inevitably going to be some stupid **** there. When you look at his actions and other things he has done and said, it's clear to anyone who is not a bitter socialist that the guy is not a Nazi. Super awkward and on the spectrum, yeah, but calling everyone a Nazi is actually disrespectful to actual victims of the Holocaust.
     
  9. VooDooPope

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    Well if it isn’t the pot calling the kettle black. Hahaha

    You’ve called me names all day and it’s obvious I’ve gotten under your skin without ever even mentioning your name or calling you names. It wasn’t even directed at you but hey put that slipper on Snow White it obviously fits.

    and you’re wrong on every thing you think you know about me. but you’re wrong about most things so at least you’re consistent.

    You can take your name calling and gas lighting and shove it. I’ve enjoyed “showing ignored content” today just to watch you defend the Nazi salute and get owned! Keep it up, your true colors are showing.

    hahahahahaha
     
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  10. AroundTheWorld

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    nerve touched

    sorry you are so bitter
     
  11. SamFisher

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    He had nothing to gain by pretending that he was the world's best Path of Exile 2 player either.

    He has nothing to gain by trying to install actual Neo Nazis - AfD as the winners of German elections.

    He has nothing to gain tweeting white supremacist conspiracy theories all night long as Pepe the frog

    Maybe you can actually just - believe what you see and we all saw with your own eyes - this isn't very hard, who cares if it's just trolling or not really heartfelt or not game theory optimized...? I mean come on.

    Go to your job tomorrow or anywhere in public and start throwing out Sieg heils. See what happens.

    We all saw what he did, and what happened to him. What do you think people would say to you, even if you don't have a recent public history of open Nazism & white supremacy?

    Probably nothing good. You do Nazi trolling, people gonna call you a ****in Nazi piece of ****, and they should! You have only yourself to blame if you choose to act the way he did, does & will continue to do.
     
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  12. FranchiseBlade

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    So it's okay for him to make comments stereotyping people because they are Jewish?

    I mean he specifically agreed and called truth the idea that a group of people whose only two descriptors were 'Western' and 'Jews' were against white people.

    Is that inclusive? Is that antisemitic?

    It is what Musk posted. Why are you claiming that an excessive quantity of posts excuses that rhetoric.

    Has Musk ever apologized for the post?
     
  13. durvasa

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    Jewish communities that tend to be left-leaning and cast white people as the bad guys when it comes to race relations don't deserve our sympathy when they experience antisemitism.

    It was a profoundly stupid comment masquerading as something intellectual, and I don't know why Musk thought otherwise in the moment.
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    I don't know. I still don't understand wtf he was trying to say. What I do know is that he has publicly expressed support for the Jewish people many times.

    The interpretation that he would somehow say Jewish people are not white or whatever doesn't even make logical sense to me. Some are, some aren't, but again, you had to go almost 2 years and probably 20,000 tweets back to find one that could be interpreted as unfriendly to Jews.
     
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    You may well be right, but you could probably pull up 100 tweets and public statements where he expresses support for Jewish people. Again, I read the responses and some people were saying he was actually agreeing with the guy from Boca or that he was criticizing the ADL or whatever. Most likely it was just a dumbass throwaway comment he didn't properly think about. Maybe he was high as a kite. Who cares.

    I'm not going to dissect every little statement. If that's the worst people can find as evidence that he is a Nazi and therefore that must have been a Heil Hitler greeting, then that's weak sauce.

    Edit:

    In the same conversation, he seems to side with the Jewish people against Hamas?



    His comment "you speak the actual truth" seems to relate to criticism of the ADL. Not to whatever people want to interpret as anti-Jewish.

     
  16. VooDooPope

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    You’re wrong again.

    hahaha
     
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    Meanwhile, in less than 24 hours as POTUS, Trump places all federal diversity, equity and inclusion employees on leave while pardoning the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers that attempted to overthrow the government, calls them people "that love our country" and leaves open the idea that they could have a place in politics. And... issues executive orders to end asylum access and birthright citizenship.

    Clutchfans' usual suspects: What's this hate and racism you speak of???
     
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  18. durvasa

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    The ADL clarification appears to have been made a few hours after, likely after he saw the negative reaction to it. Still, the post which he called "the actual truth" was really just ******** on "Jewish communities" -- not the ADL specifically.
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    By the way, on Elon's support of the AfD in Germany: I disagree with him on that. I find the AfD distasteful. It doesn't make him a Nazi, but there are some actual racists in that party, especially in East Germany, unfortunately. As a German who is libertarian-leaning and conservative, I really don't know whom to vote for anymore. Every other party than the AfD is basically like a uniparty...they all enter into coalitions with each other, and even the "conservative" CDU is basically anti-USA at this point and, since Merkel, largely indistinguishable from the Green Party and the Social Democrats, all leftists. But I still wouldn't vote for AfD.

    I would love it if some figure like Milei (ideologically, not the hair) would show up and pull Germany towards freedom and capitalism, but I think the majority of the population is actually very strongly pro big government. I'm afraid that the only way things will ever change in Germany would be for things to get really, really bad first (a war or complete collapse of the economy).
     
  20. durvasa

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    It's going to be a crazy 4 years.
     
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