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The Ringer: Suns should trade KD to Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, Jan 14, 2025.

  1. Icehouse

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    Why can’t we trade 25 until the draft happens?
     
  2. jch1911

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    Hornets suck...

    That's it.

    That's the post.

    Jerks... helping make Suns better
     
  3. Hemingway

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    You can't trade draft picks in consecutive years and we don't have a 26 draft pick which we traded. After the draft we can trade it. Sepien rule or something like that.
     
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  4. Reeko

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    I’d be fine with KD depending on the price

    I’ll just say this tho, he’s gone out sad his last 2 stops…BK was a disappointment, and PHX should not be this bad

    Maybe 3rd different team is the charm?

    Suns are 11th in the West and have a -1.5 point differential…they just lost to the Hawks the other night

    there’s no way a team like the Clippers should be doing better than the Suns for example
     
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  5. robbie380

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    DB and Cam for KD is clearly a win on paper but man the health of 36 year old KD worries me. His defense has slipped a bit too.
     
  6. YaoMac09

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    Bruv the proposed trade is overpaying even for a 32-year old KD.
     
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  7. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Here's the plan for the Suns:

    You can't trade Beal for anything but a loss. You might be better off just starting him at PG to be honest and swallowing that pill for 1.5 more years till he's expiring and you have a chance of trading him. You just really watch his minutes and rest him on back to backs, Tyus Jones plays a lot as backup PG. So if they want to re-tool, I think at PG is the one place they have to bite the bullet and hope some combo of Tyus, Beal, Booker can run the team.

    At SG you have Booker. You are also getting some backup depth in Tate. Possibly Whitmore but I'm opposed to trading Whitmore, I would rather send them a highly protected frp, they can have their own young hotshot backup. Just pick up a guaranteed good one-way shooter late in the draft.

    At SF you have Brooks which is perfect. He needs to play in unbalanced lineups where his offensive contribution is more of a bonus. Beal and Booker will dominate the ball offensively, Brooks is just wide open kick outs and I think he's good at that. Not going to be a fast paced team, more of a half court team which suits him. Brooks will guard the best perimeter player every night to make life so much easier on the backcourt.

    At PF/C is where the major re-tooling begins. You have 4 picks. You definitely find a way to get into the top 10 of the upcoming draft and snag the best rim protector. Seems the rim protectors are not going in the top 7 or so which means they can get one for cheap. If it's hard to find a great rim protector, then you're picking up your starting PF. You need to get one starter with one pick, go with someone safer rather than a project. Does the dirty work, also doesn't get a lot of shots.

    So now you either got a PF or C from the draft with 1 pick, they're left with 2 picks and Cam Whitmore or 3 picks. You have some tradeable contracts from Houston also. You need to go out and acquire someone who is a great two way player. If I were them I would draft a PF and try to acquire Myles Turner for 1-2 picks in a SnT this summer. That still leaves them with some assets to upgrade a position or acquire more depth. This lineup:

    Myles Turner/Landale
    The 2nd or 3rd best PF in the draft/Dunn
    Brooks/Dunn/Tate
    Booker/Grayson
    Beal/Tyus

    If Beal can play 60 games, that's a top 6 team imo with Budenholzer. Not bad at all with some draft capital and prospects still in the pocket and cap situation looking a LOT better. They have the capital to acquire one more significant piece basically, which is exactly what they'd need. Probably wait till Beal has 1 year left on his contract, attach a few picks and upgrade the PG position.
     
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  8. plegus

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    Only stat you need is his age and our team's avg. age. Do you only see 1 year aherad or what?
     
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  9. roslolian

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    Sengun playing like Bruno Fernando SMH
     
  10. Rockets4lf

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    Please no, we dont want that overrated trash. He cant even carry his team to a winning percentage. He has always been a loser.
     
  11. YI89

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    OK just imagine if such trade happened, and we had Durant instead of Uncle Jeff in our starting 5 tonight. Does anyone thinks we wouldn’t win the Kings in such scenario? Keeping our young core AND adding KD in exchange of FVV, Unc and some FRPs we don’t really need? I think it would be a brilliant move. Change my mind.
     
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    I looked at the trade machine and there's no way this trade can even happen since Suns are 2nd apron team, they can only take back an exact salary. Even if we do, we'd have to give up a Suns pick (likely the one this year, which will be lotto), so I'll pass.

    FVV will likely have to be involved in the trade and Fred is one of our most important players right now despite his poor shooting games.
     
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  13. YaoMac09

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    Brooks + Sheppard + Landale + Uncle Jeff + 1 x PHX pick for Durant. Get it done Morey!
     
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  14. JayGoogle

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    Yeah I'm on board with the trade as long as Jalen, Amen, Sengun, Bari, all stay. I'd put in Tari too but his injury history worries me a little. Cam or Reed would be nice gets for the Suns, better prospects than most teams can give them any ways.

    Durant swapped into the starting lineup on this team I think makes us a contender for the next year or so. He's a good teammate and veteran too and Jabari actually trained with him in the off season and he'd get full time training with him.

    Durant can still go. The only concern I'd have is his age and injuries but the thing is Brooks and/or FVV are not long time players here either.

    If the price is Cam or Reed + FVV/Brooks and their pick back I'd do it. Fact is Durant is MUCH better than Brooks and FVV. As important as those guys are as veteran players Durant would be more so. We're talking about an all time great player still putting up all star numbers and has done literally everything a player can accomplish in this league. Everyone will be better for having played with him and I think it makes us a true dark horse contender this season and an actual contender next if we fill the depth holes we trade away.
     
  15. roslolian

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    The Kings arent our mortal enemy and I'm sure if we had Jabari and FVV we would have won with or without KD.

    Remember when Clippers traded SGA and picks they didnt need for Paul George? How did that work out?
     
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  16. JayGoogle

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    Lol considering that franchise always loses their star players I think they are pretty used to that. I mean we beat that baby OKC team with Harden and Russ not that long ago but man it feels forever ago.

    It would be funny getting Durant because we would have had Harden, Westbrook, and Durant all playing for this franchise lol.
     
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  17. YI89

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    Well, FVV is no SGA. And Durant, despite he’s age, is no Paul George.
     
  18. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Look if it's not KD it's Lamelo or JJJ if you want a player who gives you just another dimension and has 5 years of great overall two-way basketball in him. Maybe Markkanen but I don't think he can be traded? Lamelo is a risk but if he accepts Ime, it could be a coup with a sharp spike in value. Would be uber-expensive but maybe your last needed move though. Scan the possibilities. The next best tier of options is not better than standing pat. 5-6 picks to upgrade from Green to Booker is not looking like a good deal right now.
     
  19. roslolian

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    Its not about FVV its about the picks we would give up.

    Durant is so old he injured himself warming up. I dont wanna commit 60M on a guy like that. We already dealing Tari and you want to add another injury risk?

     
  20. juicystream

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    I'm for getting Durant or Butler, but I'm not giving up FVV when Reed clearly isn't ready to fill his shoes unless we get back a quality PG, which isn't happening in those scenarios.
     
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