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[Discussion] The Rockets don't need to do anything

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MystikArkitect, Jan 9, 2025.

  1. MystikArkitect

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    Amen already is a better shooter than prime Ben Simmons, Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman. In his 2nd year he's certainly better than 2nd year Rajon Rondo. All of those players were All-Stars/All-NBA. There is no reason to believe he can't at least develop a decent mid-range game and sideline 3. He also just seems to obsess over basketball and not be riddled with distractions like a Ben Simmons or a Russell Westbrook (and even Harden to a degree). He's such a unique player that comp for him is really hard. I'm bullish on Amen developing into a Top 15 player in the league at the minimum.

    Sometimes there are players that bend the rules so much that their limitations don't really matter. Leo Messi as an example. Amen has already proven that he is so good at finishing around the rim that he can force you to give him space, make you backpedal, and line up a 8-14 footer which he's shown he can make. He still doesnt have a dependable floater. He can develop into a Russell Westbrook type player at the minimum and Russ is nowhere near as fast or the defender/rebounder that Amen is.
     
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    I can't stand it when people make such a definitive statement as "Amen is not a PG" or "Reed won't be ready". At least add "in my opinion". I agree that this is a development year, so why are you adamant that FVV needs to be our PG? Why not see if Amen or Reed can be ready? Why does Fred need to start next year, when he sucks at starting this year? At least, Ime has smartened up and taken him off the ball. Wow, and magicallly Fred is taken off the ball and the offense loosens up. What a freakin' surprise.
     
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    Thread title fixed for the Sengun hater.
     
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    [lol]

    [thanks]
     
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    Amen has shown to be a good play finisher, not a great shot creator against set half court POA defenses. How often is the POA defense on Amen rather than Fred, Sengun or Jalen? Look at how many 0 dribble 2 pt attempts (tip ins dunker spot attempts) Amen has compared to our shot creators in Fred, Jalen and Sengun? Do you think Sengun and Jalen specially have the same type of attempts at the rim as Amen?

    If people have measured expectations for Amen you'll be happier in the long run. At the moment he looking to project into a elite utility player of the mold of AK47 or Iggy. He could be the best version of those type of players in league history but I doubt his route to stardom is being 6'8" Ja Morant.
     
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    At least, you said I think, unlike these other narcissitst that thinks their's is the only answer.
     
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  7. Hemingway

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    Why don't you give it the rest of the year to say he's going to be our third best offensive player. His first two games as a starter this year, put him at least second best behind Jalen for those two games. In my opinion, he will be our best player on both sides of the court by the end of they year, unless Ime screws it up and gives the ball back to FVV.
     
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    Give him a chance and see. I think Ime is going to do that. We'll see.
     
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    Amen is a one man fast break army. But when I think of best offensive players I think of the guys who are most trusted in the half court setting.

    I'm not ruling out Amen being a lead ball handler one day but we are still a bit far away from that. Ime will still experiment and have Amen running point for stretches as he should to figure out if Amen can improve and gain confidence in his handles to eventually be a full time lead ball handler because a 6'8" Ja Morant without headcase issues is a wet dream
     
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    I agree but the problem is the Lebron/KD's of this generation aren't team hopping as much.

    So, the best option is to keep taking high draft picks and develop your guys.

    One of our players has to become a superstar or else you just keep drafting.
     
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    Stone should be GM of the year after the quick turn around he's done. Be grateful & trust the process
     
  12. Hemingway

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    this may be the best post you have ever made. Not because it's Amen, but because it shows an ability to be flexible in your thinking. The best kind of fans are the one's that are humble enough to know that they aren't always right. I will beat the drum on Amen in and FVV out until it's no longer possible, or until I'm proven wrong. I think you're the same on Jalen.
     
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    For once I agree with you. Probably for vastly different reasons. It gives me hope that you can get off Jalen's d*ck and become a real Rocket's fan.
     
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    We already have one superstar and maybe 2 all-stars. Who knows this year's Phoenix pick may get us another plus player. Rockets are set up for a dynasty if they don't blow it.
     
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    I think Amen can be an MVP level player without a jumpshot. If he develops a jumpshot he is 100% becoming a superstar. Saying he is our SGA was tongue in cheek, but I believe he will be our best player in very short order. He's already very impactful despite being a 21 year old sophomore. He's going to be a star on the defensive end for sure, potential DPOY candidate. The only question is if he can be a star offensively and he's flashing a ton of potential on that end. Despite the run up in minutes he still plays elite defense the entire time he's on the court, so he has the stamina to carry a bigger workload. Even an elite energy guy like Tari looks tired occasionally. Amen is never gassed even when playing 40+ minutes. Those physical tools and defensive intensity, alongside Amen's ball skills and quick decision making, remind me of a young Giannis.
     
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    The Warriors are cratering... And the Cavs are in the East... this squad has never even made the offs yet.. this is silly.
     
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    "I also think Fred needs to start next year (barring some miracle trade). Amen is not a PG and Reed won't be ready. And I don't think he will take a 50% paycut to $20 mill after this contract ends." I also think isn't good enough for you?

    Do you, Hemingway, think Amen can start at PG next year? At the start of the year? I don't think so. I also think he's better played as a non-PG.

    Do you, Hemingway, think Reed will be ready to start at PG next year at the start of the year? I don't think so.

    Changing our starting point guard is a big change.
     
  18. Hemingway

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    Sorry. I apologize. I don't know how I missed the I thinks. Maybe the Porter, two blood orange cosmos, and the cabernet. I am passionate about getting Amen in and FVV out. I think he is holding this team back. I guess FVV would be ok as a backup PG, but I think we need his 44m off the cap and I don't trust Ime to bench him. Almost everybody on this board has been clammoring for a superstar and we already have one. It is tragic (I know I'm being overly dramatic) that our superstar is averaging less than 30m a game, while FVV is routinely getting 40? The Rockets gifted Jalen monster minutes from game one and they've made Amen wait a year and a half. That is ridiculous in my opinion. Jabari's injury forced Ime's hand. Sounds bad, but it was the wrong injury.
     
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    I think with all the expiring contracts, draft picks and young guys coming up on contract years we have to make some moves whether we like it or not. Fred has been great, but that option year is crazy to pay. Jeff Green, Tate, Landale all are huge expiring deals and solid role players that contenders would want. Jabari and Tari have contracts to pay, but maybe their injuries help make them cheap. We have a ton of picks to get rid of. Obvious places to upgrade are at PG and any position knock down 3pt shooters. If not this deadline this offseason will be a big one for us. Fox is a hell of a PG if he’s available for Fred, picks and filler. Cam Johnson is a knock down 3pt shooter. If the price is right on either we should kick the tires.
     
  20. mac_got_this

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    Brooks is a rhythm player. On offense and defense. If yore going to receive his minutes like that, just trade him. Give him that much respect as a vet whose still in his prime
     

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