Rockets acquire Suns picks, return Nets picks to Brooklyn

Things are going great this season and we have a great core, but we have upcoming spots to fill

• Our top mpg guy, FVV, is gone after this year.
• Jabari is coming along nice, but are we really going to give him a major extension?
• Tari is very questionable at this point with his health.
• Cam is talented but emo as ****.
• Reed doesn't look like a full time PG even if he does start shooting well
• Dillon is gone in 2 years

 

You try to trade them while they have value..go for a star or shooters, I been telling everyone you can't keep everyone but a big 3 with Sengun green amen and established star is gonna do wonders

 

They can move him if he removes his no trade protection.

They are likely looking at another disgruntled player in a deal or possibly two players - but there are teams that would want to trade trash for trash.

 

There are teams willing to trade trash for trash, but are there teams willing to trade trash for trash with no trade clauses? My understanding is that the no trade clause is only waived for a particular trade (e.g., Beal waived it to go to the Suns, but now the Suns have to ask pretty please to trade him). Not sure a team would want Beal knowing that they are subject to his whims. One can't assume he will become an expiring contract after next season.

I don't know if a team would be willing to take Beal for the 2031 FRP from Phoenix considering other options and I have no idea how Phoenix would then pay Miami for Butler.

 

Depends on who it is and how much they value them. If they feel they're ready to contribute now, they'll likely trade one of the older guys who is closer to getting their big extension. Like I imagine Bari is gone if they landed Cooper Flagg. 4 more years of rookie scale deal rather than giving Bari the big extension.

If they don't think they're ready to contribute, they'd just use that top 4 pick as trade bait to land another star.

 

We have a very talented young core and this is our window to get KD for a low price!
KD's presence as well can help us recruit key free agents in the summer to make us legitimate contenders!
Lebron and Curry's reign is at the end...The Nuggets are not the same team and only team to worry about is the Celtics.
If we get KD, this will fix our 4th quarter problems when we play a team like the Thunder who can give the ball to Shai to go get buckets.

 

The Rockets are not trading for KD.
He's one of the major reasons we are shorting PHX...not his playing ability, but his ability to stay healthy/on the court at this point in his career.

 

On this roster, he doesn't need to be the "main guy" - just need him in key moments in the 4th and his presence to recruit other players to play in Houston.

 

Even if he removes his NTC (a BIG IF), he has said that he would carry it to another team. Who is trading for Beal knowing that NTC will stay intact? It would be lunacy from a FO perspective. This isnt even trash for trash. This is flaming hot dog chit trash for rubbish.

 

Lebron and Curry’s reign is over but let’s trade for the other one (kd) to pair with current 20-22 year olds. Taking the ball out of their hands so they get less reps in the playoffs. Also helping to deplete assets that could go towards an upgrade on the roster that would align with the Rockets players when they are in their actual primes. Screw it trade for Butler as well give him and KD 50% of the shots and send the young guys to the bench even though they are the ones that got the team to the playoffs.

Sign me up!

 

You don't have to give up alot of assets at this juncture to get KD:
Give their 1st round picks back, trade Cam/Dillon/Tari or Jabari/our expiring player contracts for contract fillers for KD
We need to make room for Amen to grow and keep him in the starting lineup so we'll roll with this group:
Sengun
Amen
KD
Jalen
FVV

 

The GM of the Rockets would not do that trade in a million years.

 

In a perfect world where you were adding him either as a free agent, or in a salary type of trade of course... yeah he fits in as an add on veteran playing off of the young guys instead of us being centered and built around him moving forward.

The main thing though is KD still has a market with older teams making that final run with their current stars. Clippers, Lakers, Heat, Philly, etc. All these teams would give up quite a bit to add him to their core just for that final title pursuit while a team like the Rockets, Orlando, Cleveland to a certain extent, etc. are on a different trajectory to compete longer with what they have in long term, and those teams are going to have a much lower offer to make for a KD, or Butler, or Kawhi, or which ever aging star is available.

Long story short I'm not really too worried about it because I don't think Stone will care to compete with a higher offer that an aging win-now team will offer.

 

We have a core 7 why we need other players? Whoever KD can recruit gonna be old and injury prone like him.

 

I don't see how KD is the guy to get for us. He's still going to cost multiple first round picks or the equivalent. He's at the age where he can fall off a cliff or have the injury that ultimately ends his career at any moment. He's never been able to carry any team to a championship as its clear-cut best player, despite many opportunities, so why would we think he could do that for us now, well past his prime?

I get that his skillset is a great fit to our needs--if he were 10 years younger, heck maybe even 5 years younger, maybe I'd be onboard with trading a massive haul for him. But at age 36?

 

Exactly. Imagine winning a championship then following that up with winning 73 games. Then you sign him as a free agent in his 20’s. That is not analogous to signing and giving up all of your assets as that posters said and signing him has he is entering his late 30’s.

 

We're not going to keep intact the "core 7" you're referring to...Sengun, Green, and Amen are the pieces we're going to build around...the other players are expendable to improve 2 key areas on our team:
A Closer (Jalen and Sengun are inconsistent)
Athletic Big Rim Protector

 

Someone like Detroit maybe....

Beal only has two years left at $53 and $57 after this year. I'm sure a team can convince themselves for a shortish term risk. I think the harder part would be for Beal to waive his NTC to Detroit so they would need to convince him.

 

Detroit fans are going nuts every time someone wants to unload Beal on them even with the Phoenix 2031 pick.