How much is a team friendly contract in your opinion? And if he doesn’t return this year again for the second year in a row, are you still giving him the team friendly long term contract?
This is the right strategy. Even if he continues to be unhealthy, there is always a market for guys as young and productive as him as long as the contract has value to when he does play. In other words, if you are paying him $25/mil a year, as long as he outperforms people making similar money on a game to game basis, then he will have value because there is always a group of good teams who will sign/trade for more injury prone players and bet on(or rest them) their availability for the playoffs. Its how you add value when you are asset constrained.
I’d include him as part of a deal for Zion Williamson. Eason, Sheppard, Cam, 2 firsts should do the trick. Gotta grab Zion before he comes back and plays 60-70 games next season.
If he doesn’t return this year then I would expect a KPJ or Tate kind of contract. One with a team option every season in case the team needs to get out of it in a hurry. 4yrs/$60m or 3 yrs/$60 is the most I think they would offer.
Fair enough. But I don’t even think you offer that much despite the contingencies in a contract. You would be basically investing in a 23 year old with a rod in his leg who’s already missed 2 straight years of basketball with the same leg injury and has had issues with that leg going back to his teenage years. And he relies quite a bit on athleticism to be effective. Just my 2 cents.
I’m not sure, I’d probably just wait and see if he’s actually able to play at all the following year. He will still be restricted. But yes would definitely do the min extension if he’s up for it lol. I’d be ok with 5-10 mil per year perhaps. I don’t know, we’ve had some horrible years with injuries with some of the older teams and I’m worn out from it. I remember back in the Tmac and Yao days it seemed like it was at least one of them always hurt. Or not 100%. I remember thinking wishing we would just trade them for healthier but lesser players. Like trade T Mac for Paul Pierce and I can’t remember who I was hoping to trade Yao for. You cant control injuries obviously, but you can at least be cautions when you see a player who may have a chronic type of injury that will probably never go away like T Mac’s back issues, Yao’s Leg issues , Taris leg issues… Kawhi, Roy, Oden. Just not a great long term history for a lot of these guys after the injuries start up. And it seems like this injury started for Tari a LONG time ago. Doesn’t give me the warm fuzzies.
I feel you. I still have PTSD from the Ryan Anderson contract. However, with the cap where it is and where it is project d to go, a contract for 15-20m that has a team option every year is would not hamstring the Rockets the same as past contracts have.
Curry signed a team friendly deal because of his injuries and he was way more talented than Tari. I wouldn’t offer Tari more than 13M a season with team options. Not only is he injury prone but he’s not conditioned enough to play over 30 mins with his play style. It’s why he’s always damn near out of breath after 6 min stints.
This dude is sounding like he's gonna need an exorcist, not a doctor. Damn Rockets always have some kind of freaky injury. Can't just be "hamstring - day to day". It's always "itchiness of leg - out for 2 years, but possibly back next week"
sounds like the rockets have no idea how the f**** to deal with Tari's injury and are just experimenting with random things now. Not good. Maybe tari needs to go international to see if doctors can figure out what's wrong with him.
Has The Udoker consulted The Pop? Sounds familiar. "He didn't reinjure it or anything, but he was having pain, but not right after games, but maybe the next day at noon or that kind of thing and so the pain wasn't dissipating. It wasn't going in the right direction." “Tari didn’t reinjure it or suffer a setback or anything but he was having pain and so he’s out for tonight.” Spoiler https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667/inside-tension-kawhi-leonard-spurs The mystery surrounding Leonard and the right quadriceps injury that essentially cost him the entire season has fascinated and frustrated the entire league. Leonard has spoken publicly only a few times this season, and his statements did little to answer any of the larger questions his protracted absence raised. On March 7, he said the injury and his current pain level were "hard to explain" but that "obviously I'm a competitor and if I could play, I would play." He didn't volunteer any of his feelings about the Spurs, or how they'd managed the situation. But when asked directly if he could see himself finishing his career with the Spurs, Leonard said, "Yeah, for sure." Spurs coach Gregg Popovich consistently affirmed his personal affection for Leonard but repeatedly expressed frustration about a rehabilitation process from an injury they never expected would take this long to heal. "You'll have to ask his group," Popovich consistently said when asked for updates, before reminding everyone that Spurs doctors had cleared him to play back in December. TO UNDERSTAND HOW the Spurs and Leonard got to this uncomfortable place, you must first understand the quadriceps injury that kept him out all season. And if you can do that, well, you might be way ahead of the specialists who have treated Leonard throughout this process. In conversations with multiple sources close to Leonard and the Spurs, there is some disagreement about the exact nature of the injury. Leonard's camp believes his condition is the result of a series of contusions to the quadriceps that began with one very deep bruise in March 2016 that caused him to miss three games. Leonard was again listed with a "quad contusion" on the Feb. 6, 2017, injury report, when he was a late scratch before a game. But it wasn't until the end of last season when the severity of the injury became apparent. According to multiple sources, Leonard's camp has come to believe the issue has more to do with an ossification, or hardening, in the area where the muscle has been repeatedly bruised, and then an atrophy, which in turn affected the tendons connecting the muscle to the knee. The Spurs have always called the injury quadriceps tendinopathy, which is a disease of the tendon that has a degenerative effect on the muscle by keeping it in a constant state of exhaustion. The treatment course for each diagnosis (a muscle issue vs. a tendon issue) is different, which has become another source of tension in the relationship. Initially the Spurs' doctors were calling the shots, with Leonard following their protocols for most of last summer in his workouts in San Antonio with team staffers and San Diego with his longtime personal trainer. But things began to change in August as Leonard continued to experience discomfort, according to sources. His agent, Mitch Frankel, and uncle, Dennis Robertson, began pressing the Spurs to consult outside opinions. Last fall, Dr. Keith Pyne, the managing partner of SportsLab NYC, which is affiliated with the Washington Nationals and New York Islanders, began consulting on the case. Leonard briefly returned to the Spurs for nine games from mid-December through mid-January. The Spurs were conservative in their approach. He'd play one game, then sit out the next game regardless of how many days later it was scheduled. After scoring 19 points in 28 minutes in a win over Denver on Jan. 13, he complained of soreness in the area once again. He traveled with the team to Atlanta -- a game he was scheduled to sit out anyway -- and Brooklyn, but instead of playing against the Nets, Popovich announced at shootaround that Leonard was being shut down indefinitely. "He didn't reinjure it or anything, but he was having pain, but not right after games, but maybe the next day at noon or that kind of thing and so the pain wasn't dissipating," Popovich said at the time. "It wasn't going in the right direction." The confusion over the exact nature of the injury has only added to the frustration. Spurs guard Tony Parker caused a stir when he said he had the same injury as Leonard, but "100 times worse" a few days after ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported that Parker and Ginobili had confronted Leonard about his status during a tense team meeting on March 17. Several players, including Danny Green and Rudy Gay, later characterized the meeting as more of a discussion. However, Parker and Ginobili never addressed the tone or substance of the meeting, with Parker simply saying "that's family business." Parker ruptured the tendon in his left quadriceps during the playoffs last year. Surgery was performed by the Spurs' team doctors and he returned to the court on Nov. 27.
You can't invest much into Tari if he gets the reputation for being injury prone, which I guess he probably already has. For the sake of his career, I really hope they can figure all of this out. He's a good dude and I love his game, but you can't rely on someone who gets hurt all the time.
