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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. kpdark

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    or playing alongside KAT
     
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    As much as i think JG is overrated i thought it was good that Ime let JG run the offence and try something different in the second half. It was obvious they wanted JG to initiate the offence more as primary in that second half, you could see FVV and Sengun deferring to JG for taking the ball up the court, seems like it's working. Unforunately i didnt see the first half, but i imagine it was FVV initiating the offence.

    Might need to see a few more games where JG is given the primary and see the results.

    I especially liked that they were running the PNR between FVV and JG, i actually feel like this combination is more effective, for some reason the PNR just doesnt work between Sengun and JG.
     
  3. meh

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    If you can just tell me what makes makes those players great passers, I can tell you why I think Jalen is a poor one. You're the one who says there's no metric that says Jalen is a poor passer. I am simply asking you to provide metrics that says LeBron is a great passer. Whatever metrics you use, check that same metric on Jalen and see how he fares.
     
  4. ApacheWarrior

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    I'm just a good ol boy from Kentucky.....honored to be among this group

     
  5. BallSoHarden

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    If that were true, we would have been getting calls on him that were more serious. The league has had a chance to evaluate him for 3.5 seasons, and in league circles Jalen does not really have a lot of value. Jalen even knows this, otherwise he would not have taken a 3-year deal, he would have waited until Free Agency and taken a 5-year super max from another team, but there likely would be no such deal this summer, his value is not of a young super star.
     
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  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Cam is bigger, stronger, faster, and more skilled.

    Open up the competition for playing time and watch Cam blow by Jalen.

    DD
     
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  7. BigMaloe

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    True
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    The competition has always been open, and Cam has been losing.
     
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  8. AroundTheWorld

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    Jalen played 624 possessions without Alpi on the floor this season (unless you say Alpi was "clogging the paint from the bench", that should have given Jalen all the freedom to operate you asked for). Even if you say, ok, but Jock or Steven Adams was in the way, just let Jalen play without any center, that's still 202 possessions.

    Result is the same - the Rockets sucked and had a negative plus/minus with Jalen on and Alpi/other centers off.

    Conversely, with Alpi on and Jalen off, in 543 possessions, the Rockets are +18.9 (which would be the best point differential in the league).

    See the actual data below.


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    For good measure, here are the updated On/Off stats for the entire season, after 33 games, for all Rockets players.

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  9. No Worries

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    Jalen is quicker.

    Cam has both an NBA body and game. Cam was likely a better player as a rookie than Jalen, but was “unfortunate” in who his HC was and had to earn his PT versus how Jalen was gifted his.

    I suspect going forward Cam gets increased PT at the 2/3, as Tari will be in and out of the lineup and Amen will be getting some minutes at the 1.

    The future Rockets 1-2-3 may very well be Amen, Jalen an Cam.

    We will see.
     
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    Wonder if Wolves fans have same type of haters hating on Anthony Edward’s tonight
     
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  12. AroundTheWorld

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    Edwards has been a pretty big disappointment this season (and tonight), no?
     
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    While I was looking at Cleaningtheglass, I remembered that someone made a comment here saying that Cam and Jalen seem to be playing well together.

    This seems to indeed be the case this season (small sample size warning, but close to 100 possessions).

    Maybe that double-headed monster of athletes running at you could be the offensive equivalent of the "terror twins" on defense?

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  14. Chad Butler

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    No, I’m simply pointing out that certain critiques are not coming from a genuine place. Sorry, you’re too dense to understand that.
     
  15. J.R.

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    Fred: no problem playing along side Sengun
    Dillon: no problem playing along side Sengun
    Jabari: no problem playing along side Sengun
    Tari: no problem playing along side Sengun
    Amen: no problem playing along side Sengun
    Cam: no problem playing along side Sengun
    Holiday: no problem playing along side Sengun
    Tate: no problem playing along side Sengun
    Jeff: no problem playing along side Sengun
    Reed: no problem playing along side Sengun
    Jalen: problem playing along side Sengun

    Jalen dick suckers(there’s 5-10 of them): Sengun is the problem. Trade Sengun.

    Silas’ fault
    Ime’s fault
    Sengun’s fault
    Fred’s fault
    Porter Jr.’s fault
    Wall’s fault
    Wood’s fault
    Toyota Center’s fault

    Two guys who have had everything handed to them, never had to earn **** (and no surprise it’s the two biggest disappointments): Jalen and Jabari

    Cam: go earn your minutes
    Amen: go earn your minutes
    Reed: go earn your minutes
    Sengun: go earn your minutes
    Tari: go earn your minutes
    Christopher: go earn your minutes
    Garuba: go earn your minutes
    TyTy: go earn your minutes
     
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    Looking at the on/off numbers, Jalen and Jabari are unfortunately the ones among the heavy minute rotation players with the worst on/off.

    But we are winning overall, so...
     
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    I don't know how they measure these things. Probably how fast they play, not how fast they can run. But still, I can't believe Reed is faster than Amen, Jock is faster than Jalen, and Adams is faster than FVV.
     
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    It's just the average speed...I would be interested in knowing the top speed...
     
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    What place do you think they're coming from? Do clarify.
     
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    I don’t trust you Jatman
     

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