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Man plows into crowd on Bourbon Street killing 10 and injuring 35

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    Those "screening" questions are voluntary and not used for employment decisions, but rather to demonstrate they are attracting diverse candidates and to measure the overall hire rate. Should be noted that the hiring manager never sees those answers.
     
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    I was being bit unnecessarily confrontational
     
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  3. rocketsjudoka

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    Sorry to prolong the detail but I having not had an actual job interview in a long time I’ve never had to deal with this.

    I have a question but would refusal to answer such questions be grounds for not hiring someone? Sorry I should rephrase. Are there any negative consequences that any is aware of for not answering those questions?
     
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  4. durvasa

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    Good to know. I don't know if that was made clear on the application form or not (if not, it erodes confidence in applicants that they will be given fair consideration). But if the questions are voluntary (one can answer "would rather not say" or something similar), then I don't think the statistics collected would be all that useful.
     
  5. Kemahkeith

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    Well thought out and
    Well said
     
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  6. AroundTheWorld

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    lol not true
     
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    Are you aware of cases where not answering these questions is grounds for not hiring or other negative consequences?
     
  8. Xopher

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    These questions are purely voluntary. They do not have to be answered. Also, as stated above, the hiring manager does not see the answers.
     
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  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Yeah you clearly haven't worked much in the US as a hiring manager.
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It's more to demonstrate they comply with the law
     
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    No - it would be illegal to do so. I never answer those questions. The hiring manager doesn't see those answers. Nor would they want to as it would expose them to risk.
     
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    The Internet can be a wild place where folks who are unhappy can really go down a dark rabbit hole.

    While women aren’t immune to it, there’s something about men that makes it more prevalent among us.
     
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  13. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I don't think you know what far left ideology actually is.

    Being educated about the history and evolution of things, and knowing the science behind things doesn't make one a leftist. Or shouldn't at least.
     
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    The obvious answer is he used a timer or fuse. That part wouldn't be complicated. The why he would do it is definitely still up in the air. Seems with all the cameras it would be difficult for him to be a plant.

    Could be he wanted to make it look like a liberal attack, and then killed himself when he realized he went too far. It 100% is a weird thing for a Trump supporter to have done unless he just wanted to be in his happy place surrounded by Trump, Elon, and Firepower.
     
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    HR can still use it to unofficially screen applicants depending on how overzealous the team and culture is with promoting disadvantaged groups. The hiring mgr would be removed from this process and/or can ignore what hr is pushing.

    There is a best practice of anonymizing screening data afterwarfs and numbering candidates but it's not a law or standard. Fed laws generally check that employers aren't incredibly biased towards hiring white/asians and mostly males.

    The way things work now, it would be celebrated if an employer showed hiring in the opposite direction which is difficult due to supply constraints. The HR team that accomplishes this would just have to leave out any overt practices in bias and it would be blindly accepted until a lawsuit comes up if ever.
     
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    Highly unlikely - the HR folks who look at that data aren't the recruiters even if the internal recruiters are within HR. The recruiters may have personal bias, but they are basing that on the name and their conversation with the candidates - and usually that favors people who match the race of the recruiter.
     
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    So… the thing about the truck coming from Mexico through Eagle Pass by the killer was completely false, originating with Fox News, and peddled by users here, Trump himself, and his biggest supporters?

    Got it.
     
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...errorist-shamsud-din-jabbar-local-mosque.html

    The terrifying history of Islamist extremism at New Orleans terrorist Shamsud Din Jabbar's local mosque [in Houston]

    The man who drove a truck into a crowd of New Year's Day revelers in New Orleans was part of a Muslim community in Houston with a scary history of hard-line Islamism, DailyMail.com can reveal.

    Shamsud-Din Jabbar, 42, a Texas-born US citizen and Army veteran, rammed the crowd in the French Quarter, killing 14 and injuring dozens more, after declaring his support for ISIS. He was killed in a shootout with police.

    The FBI has probed Jabbar's ties to ISIS and hunted for potential accomplices. One focus is his Muslim immigrant community in northern Houston, and nearby mosque Masjid Bilal, which is now swarming with police, agents and armored vehicles.

    The mosque belongs to The Islamic Society of Greater Houston (ISGH), which runs 20 centers across Texas' biggest city. It officially promotes tolerance, but the group also has a troubling track record of extremist preaching.

    This includes its former cleric Zoubir Bouchikhi, who has been deported from the US. Bouchikhi has called non-Muslims 'worse than animals,' and shared anti-Christian Saudi propaganda at his Houston mosques.

    Since Jabbar's attack, the mosque and ISGH have gone quiet. They did not answer DailyMail.com's requests for comment, and have reportedly urged members to brush off requests for information from investigators and journalists.

    That's according to an ISGH memo shared on social media, calling on congregants to refer queries to the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), an advocacy group with ties to the ultra-conservative Muslim Brotherhood.

    'If anyone is contacted by the media, it is very important that you do not respond. If approached by the FBI and a response is necessary, please refer to CAIR and ISGH,' says the note.

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    The Islamic Society of Greater Houston once hired the Algerian cleric Zoubir Bouchikhi, who says non-Muslims are 'worse than animals'

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    Jabbar lived around the corner from the Masjid Bilal mosque and religious center, part of the Islamic Society of Greater Houston

    'It is crucial that we stay united at this time as we condemn these terrible acts.'
    Horror unfolded in Bourbon Street, in New Orleans, around 3.15am local time on Wednesday, when Jabbar drove a powerful white Ford F-150 Lightning EV into crowds ringing in 2025.

    He was killed in a shootout with officers after he exited his vehicle and started shooting, injuring two NOLA police officers who are in a stable condition.

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    Shamsud Din Jabbar, 42, drove a white Ford SUV into pedestrians ringing in 2025 in New Orleans' French Quarter Wednesday around 3.15am local time

    An ISIS flag and weapons were found inside the vehicle. The FBI is assessing Jabbar's ties to the violent armed Sunni group that was once a major force in Syria, Iraq, and elsewhere, but has since faded.

    Agents are investigating the massacre 'as an act of terrorism' and New Orleans mayor LaToya Cantrell described it as a 'terrorist attack'.

    Detectives are now focusing on Jabbar's home in a trailer park in the Rushwood neighborhood of northern Houston — a run-down bungalow with geese, chickens, and sheep roaming the yard.

    It remains unclear exactly what motivated Jabbar, but reports suggest his life had gone off the rails after he quit the Army in July 2020. The cash-strapped father and double divorcee's real estate business was floundering.

    Court records show Jabbar faced a deteriorating financial situation in 2022 while separating from his then-wife. Jabbar said he was behind on house payments and had accumulated credit card debt and wanted to quickly finalize the divorce.

    It's also unclear how heavily involved he was with Masjid Bilal mosque, a sprawling double-story brick complex that also includes a school, which is just a few minutes' walk from his house.

    The nearby religious center and ISGH have worked hard in recent years to distance themselves from the hardline Islamist views that gave rise to such violent jihadist groups as ISIS and al-Qaeda.

    Its mosques, which were founded by Pakistani immigrants from the 1960s onward, are used as polling stations; leaders publicly proclaim a moderate form of Islam compatible with modern-day US lifestyles.


    The FBI on Thursday said Jabbar had acted alone, reversing its position from a day earlier that he likely worked with others in carrying out the deadly attack, which officials say was an act of terrorism inspired by ISIS.

    The agency also revealed that the US citizen from Texas posted five videos on his Facebook account in the hours before the attack, in which he aligned himself with IS and said he had joined the group before last summer.

    'This was an act of terrorism. It was premeditated and an evil act,' said Christopher Raia, the deputy assistant director of the FBI's counterterrorism division.

    The attack killed 14 people, including an 18-year-old woman who had ambitions of becoming a nurse. Authorities initially put the death toll at 15, which included Jabbar, who was fatally shot in a firefight with police.

    Officials had said Wednesday that they were seeking additional potential suspects in the attack, which occurred when Jabbar steered around a police blockade and plowed into a crowd.

    In a statement, CAIR denounced Jabbar's 'senseless and infuriating' attack, and said it had nothing to do with the kind of Islam practiced by most Muslims in the US and beyond.

    'His crime is the latest example of why cruel, merciless, bottom-feeding extremist groups have been rejected by the overwhelming majority of the Muslim world,' said the statement.
    ISGH has hosted dozens of interfaith gatherings and worked with local Christian churches on charity food drives, according to CAIR.

    But they also have a sketchy track record when it comes to hard line Islamist views, which were exposed after the 9/11 terror attacks on the US and tougher efforts to root out home-grown religious extremists.

    Notably, ISGH in 2001 hired the Algerian cleric Bouchikhi, who served as the spiritual leader at a southeast Houston mosque, and who was arrested and then deported in 2011, reportedly for immigration violations.

    Bouchikhi has a record of making extreme statements about non-Muslims and women that are at odds with ISGH's professed values.

    In a video of a sermon from Bouchikhi's new home in Malaysia in 2020, he called non-Muslims: 'The worst of Allah's creations, even lower than animals are those who disbelieve and refuse to [believe].'

    'When I see a sheep, I think the sheep is better than them,' added the firebrand, in a video publicized by the Middle East Media Research Institute.

    In the same diatribe, Bouchikhi slams such 'sinners' as young women who 'parade in a miniskirt,' and says that tolerating homosexuality showcased the West's moral decline.

    As Bouchikhi was preaching in Houston, ISGH also came under the scrutiny of Washington, DC-based Freedom House, which was probing the presence of hard line Saudi religious propaganda at US mosques.

    The campaign group in 2005 named Masjid Bilal as one of two Houston mosques that offered congregants anti-American and anti-Jewish propaganda from Saudi Arabia's ultraconservative clerics.

    Researchers found a copy of a book, Islamic Guidelines to Reform the Individual and Society, which forbids faithful Muslims from imitating others, or any form of 'supporting Jews, Christians, and communists against Muslims.'

    The FBI did not answer DailyMail.com's queries about whether investigators were probing ISGH or its history with Islamist extremism in connection to the bloodbath in New Orleans.




     
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    RIP to the fallen but not forgotten. Ban all cars!! And *** that scumbucket, a white truck really? Who still buys white trucks? White is the ugliest color of all time. On automobiles.
     
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    Lmao
     
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