Now that you touch upon it.......might as well. It is actually not far from the population of people on the Streets in the US........just reversed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_NBA#:~:text=African Americans entered the league,and 0.2 percent Asian players.
And you could argue basically that the Euro (white) has higher ceilings than the American white player.....which is a whole new conversation. And yes, prejudice has something to do with it too but I am actually not really worried about that.
@Rokman The word you are looking for is stigma but white prospects have to choose basketball over hockey, football, baseball, soccer etc. all the time to better the whole talent pool situation. There are more quarterbacks than point guards at this point off top of my head.
I hoped Reed had more meaning to our team than the way this thread has gone. I was expecting something different than this More stuff like —> Maybe VV could cut back on his PT a little to carve out as steady 10ish minute a game for him to develop. Sengun would have to be on the court to make it work —> 2nd and then 3rd quarter if starts to cooking. Just a little bit of every day play would open him up. He would grow. This is on coach
I like your post! My comments had nothing to do with Reed being white. The one thing that could turn his disastrous start to the season in another direction and the one hope I have is that someday this excellent coaching staff will design actual picks by Adams and others to generate wide open threes for Reed. He rarely gets open shots due to his somewhat lacking skillset (other than 3 pointers) and needs picks to get open. They never seem to have a set play for a wide open Reed three and that baffles me.
He should go to g-league We are too deep Tate is better , Holliday is better , Amen is better , cam is better Difficult situation to get drafted into and get minutes . The fact he's been earning any at all is a good sign .
I'm assuming he's showing some things in practice otherwise he wouldn't sniff the floor unless its a blowout situation . But it's an assumption. He hasn't looked great on the court
Far too early to call him a bust. Not everyone comes into the league wrecking it. We could list tons of players drafted early that took time to find themselves and/or still finding their way in the league.
I'm not calling him a bust yet but I really really hate this trend of people saying "it's actually good that he's playing bad, look at these other superstars who began their careers playing bad." It's never good that our guy is bad. Don't show me the first 2 years of some hall of famer when he was also bad, that **** doesn't matter. For every hall of famer that turned it around there's like 100 guys you've never heard of who started bad and were always bad. Reed isn't the only guy where people do this but he's the most recent one and I think it's always dumb.
Amen was not instantly showing out. Go look at his stats in January and some of the things posters were writing about him in the Amen threads. I've been a huge believer in Amen since his first Summer League game but it wasn't until March that it was inarguable he was playing like a ~top 10 rookie. Part of the gush with Jacquez was draft position but a lot of it was just that he was one of the best rookies up to that point. I saw plenty of "Jacquez might go top 3 in a redraft" stuff. Similar deal with Podz, though he was more taking advantage of a good situation rather than being older. I remember Chris Duarte, MCW, etc. People say Reed looks outmatched and I just don't see that. I've seen rookies who looked like they clearly don't belong like Fultz as a rookie and Reed is not in that category IMO. He of course needs to improve, if he's a sub 30% three point shooter there won't be a long term spot in the NBA for him. I don't know why you are so hung up on the top 3 thing right now. Everyone said look at this draft like it starts at 7 so from that perspective Reed would've been like the 10th pick in a normal year. If you want to argue the FO messed up and should've drafted Castle, Knecht, Clingan, etc. that's cool. I'm not getting into that argument right now because I don't have a super strong opinion at this point. But thinking Reed should be much better than those guys right at this moment in time because he got drafted higher is pretty much complaining just to complain, especially given that Reed isn't in a normal top 3 pick situation where he's going to get 25 minutes a game no matter what. DWS, opponent FG%, defensive rating. Nothing seems to suggest his defense is "atrocious." He doesn't only play in garbage time. Do you even watch the games?
Everyone who compared KPJ to James Harden and said Jalen Green was on the right trajectory to be Tmac or Kobe or whatever. I don't know, what's the point of showing the comparisons then? What point are you trying to make?
The point is that one should not panic. People are still free to believe or not believe that he will follow the path of these players. Still, nobody said "it's good that he is playing badly".
LOL I dont wanna hear this from the guy who kept claiming Sheppard was gonna be a god shooter in the NBA predraft. You said Jalen Green was gonna be Corey Brewer and not only were you wrong, your boy Sheppard is 10x worse than Corey Brewer. You realize Jalen Green is a better 3 pt shooter than Sheppard? The one who is utterly laughable is you and all the insane **** you said about Sheppard predraft.
Alright fine, you can phrase it however you want, my point is still the same. I think it's a really weak argument. I can show you 100 players on the same "path" that ended up out of the league. I'm not trying to single you out, it's not a clutchfans thing. I've seen people do it with Scoot Henderson, Jaden Ivey, Killian Hayes, Cade, Giddey, and others. We have all these tools available online now that no matter how bad someone may be playing, you can probably find a really good player who also played similarly. I'm not telling you what you can or can't believe, you can believe whatever you want. I'm just saying I don't like it and I think it's really unconvincing.
