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De'Aaron Fox

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ThatboyPhuong, Dec 21, 2024.

  1. Corrosion

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    My thought is that both FVV & Jalen need to be replaced.

    Fox replaces FVV at a reasonable cost, FVV this years draft pick & maybe Cam or Reed?

    Then you move Jalen for the best player you can get in the offseason.

    As for Amen - I don't care what position he plays as long as he's getting starter type minutes. He's not close to running an NBA offense on a full time basis right now, if at some point he gets there, then you can adjust accordingly.

    And then there's the fact that Fox is an asset upgrade over FVV. If you have to add him to a deal, he's significantly more valuable.
     
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  2. astrosrule

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    You think fox is an asset on a 30% max? i think he's gonna be an AWFUL contract that i want no part of. I'm not giving up reed (hell no) to get him, and certainly no picks that have a chance to be lottery. I would maybe take him for just fvv as long as he's not extended, but if getting him means an extension then hell no. He's massively overrated on this board, and is not much of an upgrade on fred.
     
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  3. Lloyd Estacio

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    1)Lamelo 1B)Trae 2)Fox
     
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    He's currently averaging 12 more points a game than Frederick. Nothing overrated about possibly having more wins than we do now.
     
  5. astrosrule

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    There’s more to basketball than ppg. I said i do agree he’s a little better than fred (this season, overall they are about equal or fred a bit better), but it’s not a massive upgrade. Even if we could win 48 instead of 47 games this season, who cares? The long term price for that would like be catastrophic.
     
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    What are you basing this catastrophic assumption on?
     
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    Him being resigned. Paying him a full 5 year max (which is what it will be), for the 30th or whatever he is best player in the league will be a disaster. Most realistic trades will also cost us several of our assets (young guys/picks) and he's just not that good.
     
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  8. Hemingway

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    1. Ant 2. Giannis 3. Lamello 4. Booker ....... 15. Fox
     
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    I wanted Trae from as far back as last season's trade deadline. And I definitely kept advocating this past offseason despite most people here hated on him as a trade option. I'm not trying to toot my own horn here because he's played well this year. But rather to say whoever the Rockets can trade for, it's someone at the lowest value. Think Kyrie Irving to Dallas type of trade. Cause if someone's playing so well even casual fans love him, like with LaMelo this year, then that guy is going to cost so much the Rockets won't have enough to build around him after the trade.
     
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    LaMelo is very much in a situation where he could potentially become acquirable, IMO, this summer.

    The Hornets current ownership and FO did not draft LaMelo. The Hornets are going to win 20-something games for the third year in a row, and probably 4th next year. Their fan base is demoralized with the current rebuild and unserious team identity. Their best players just aren’t reliable or competitive.

    LaMelo kind personifies that, for better or worse, and he’ll be going into year 6. I could definitely see a world where the best path for the Hornets and for LaMelo is to move him for a package that allows them to rebuild their rebuild and create a new competitive identity.

    If he stays in Charlotte I think he probably remains kind of a failed Bball savant forever. He kinda needs to go somewhere like Houston.
     
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    An Amen, Lamello backcourt would be the best in the league. I think an Amen/Ant backcourt would be even better. Lamello is by far the biggest risk, because of his injury history, so his cost should be less. Very few teams have the need in their backcourt as much as we do. Jalen and the Phoenix picks should land Lamello for us. It would take more for Ant. FVV should be on the table for any team that is facing the 2nd Apron as an expiring. That only works if we trade him this year.
     
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    It all depends on what types of injuries, if he plays and lives on the perimeter, then his injuries might just be smaller.....

    If he can avoid those big men foot and leg injuries.

    The Playoffs especially in the West are not guaranteed, we have seen the Highs of the Udoka era very early but we have not seen the Lows and the Median......

    Other than Tari, the Rockets have been very fortunate with bigger Injuries.

    Until I have seen that, I am reserving judgment on the 'Playoff team every year' comment.


     
  13. Lloyd Estacio

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    Revised
    1a)ant 1b)Lamelo..
     
  14. Lloyd Estacio

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    Yes! Absolutely. A defensive team like us complements him completely and vice versa. Teams wouldn't be able to double Sengun cuz they're most likely doubling Lamelo instead. Plus he's a great passer and if the offense stalls he's the man to make something outa nothing.
     
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  15. Lloyd Estacio

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    I think Ant is a great player and would love to have him. He did have a benefit since he came into the league with good players like Kat, Conley, and veterans who really helps winning. Lamelo for the most part has been on crappy teams other than his 1st couple years and then injuries mounted up. But I kinda like Lamelo a little more with his bravado and creativity. I'm glad his value is less than Ant. Lamelo would also bring a lot eyes and money to us.
     
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    Turning down Fox who averages 28 a game for Reed Sheppard who averages 3 a game is dumb AF tbh. How many years for Sheppard to even be a starter never mind a player like Fox? Do you even know if Sheppard will not be a bust? Dude can't shoot OR defend 30% into the season. Remember when GSW stopped trading for Lauri Markannen because of Brandin Podziemski? How did that work out? Don't fall in love with role players.

    What do you even mean by Fox making 30% of the cap? You realize he makes less than Sengun next year? SMH!
     
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    My issue with Lamelo is his durability. He is always injured we already have Tari who is always injured I don't want another dude making big money sitting on the bench all the time.
     
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    I'm starting to warm up to getting Fox especially if it won't cost a lot.

    1. Fox makes 34M this year and 37M next year. Very cheap for a supposed 1A option.
    2. Fox isn't that bad at shooting 3s, he fluctuates from 33-36% from 3. Not the best but I guess a smidge better than Jalen
    3. I thought Fox was injury prone but I guess he isn't that bad. Has played 2 70 game seasons recently

    Defense sucks but he makes up for being an elite scorer at 57% TS. He gets these by consistently driving inside and getting fouled. Might not be a bad upgrade the important thing is if we get him this season we have 1 more season to see how it all works out before committing. I think we can easily get him with just FVV, Reed Sheppard and a couple of picks so tbh we could still go for Booker and pair him with Fox later on.
     
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  19. Corrosion

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    Do you think FVV gets his option picked up playing so poorly?

    In the case that he isn't, you can create about $23m in cap space by declining the option and relinquishing all your cap holds.
    What's your plan to replace FVV?
    I don't think Amen is ready and there's no one else on the roster, you NEED a starting PG.

    If you can flip FVV into that starting PG next season on the cheap (and an allstar?) I don't see why you wouldn't.

    Then you can move Jalen in the offseason .....for your starting 2.
     
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    Amen is ready now. He can be Fox with defense, although he needs to shoot FT's better. At the very least, we should try it out before we commit assets to a guy like Fox who will demand Max in 1 1/2 years and has been in 1 all-star game. They should fake a phantom injury and try Amen/Jalen for 20 games or so. I think both will be unleashed. If you do go for Fox it needs to be FVV on the way out and move Jalen to the bench to see if that unleashes him. If not, trade him in the off-season.
     

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