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  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    It was meant a joke but he would earn more money with a team that is not bound to make the Playoffs and having the pressure to perform anyways on any given night.

    Drayer would also want him to be making more money and spending more time with her.



     
  2. J.R.

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    “I ain’t no sixth man”
    “I ain’t being used the right way”
    Silas sucks
    Ime sucks
    KPJ not the ideal mentor or backcourt partner
    Sengun gets in the way
    Fred plays too slow & selfish
    Team plays too slow; up the tempo
    Spacing is poor/non-existent
    Doesn’t get enough shot attempts or touches

    Can only play well against mediocre/trash/tanking teams
    He can only play well after the all-star break
    Needs to play fast uptempo to be good err “to utilize him to best of his ability” (so you’re saying he can’t play in the halfcourt)
    Needs a certain type of center (or “5 out” offense)

    Can’t judge him from the Silas years. Fake coach. Just 19/20 years old. He was allowed to do whatever he wanted. He needed coaching and structure.

    Can’t judge him with Udoka. Defensive coordinator who has no clue on offense. Just 21/22 years old. We need to play uptempo. We need Mike D’Antoni. Get out and run!

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    He’s like the QB who needs everything perfect around him.

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  3. ThatBoyNick

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    Absolutely devastating

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    I hope they find a cure for your schizophrenia.
     
  5. ThatBoyNick

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    Wack.
     
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    Looks like it'll be when hell freezes over, when Jalen clowns lay a little of the blame at Jalen's own feet for why he just simply isn't good.
     
  7. theDude

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    I would argue that it is because Corey Brewer only averaged 22 minutes per game over his first 4 years, rather than Jalen's 32 minutes. As I said, Jalen has been given many unearned opportunities that other players have not received. And over those first four years, Brewer averaged about 42% of his team's starts, while Jalen averaged 92% of his team's. There are many reasons Jalen has acheived these "milestones".

    I only compare him to Brewer because we are all familiar with him. There are many players we can compare him to that show the volume of work he has been given are propping him up in a way that many other players did not receive.
     
  8. bustamove

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    so he finally had a great game the other with a center, team, coach, and system which doesn't fit him

    so what changed?
     
  9. bustamove

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    no responsibility and accountability at all just blame and deflect for these clowns

    Alpi missing gimmes near the rim - Alpi needs to fix it
    Jabari bad season at the start of this season - Jabari fixed it
    Amen a teribble shooter last year - Amen improved

    Jalen shooting bad - it's Alpi, Ime, the system, the team around him, having to play defense, etc

    if the team is that bad and you are so great, then why can't you rise up to the occasion more often than not

    that's what Alpi and Amen are doin and not making any excuses
     
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  10. RudyTBag

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    Good lord man. Nuclear holocaust post… Going to shake the faith of even the most devoted.
     
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    How many of these posts do we need?
     
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    And here I thought it was all about defense and rebounding leading to open court opportunities.
     
  13. daywalker02

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    The amount of secksey last nights.

     
  14. bustamove

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    Theres some new ones

    Hes having no play defense now
    He needs to live in the paint like giannis

    Seriously, were the LOFs this bad?
    Its just all excuses and blame at this point

    Im fine with praising a player performing baldy and has a great game

    But to **** on everything else though...
     
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    He's just not that good. Not yet anyway.
     
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    The system, coach, center, and team picked up the pace. They were running and not coming down court consistently playing PNR.

    Im not being sarcastic but did you see the difference in the first half and the 3rd Qtr? There was a notable difference. If you go back and watch, FVV, Alpi and Dillon were playing on on side of the court, while Jalen was on the other side waiting for touches. And all I'm saying is, if we expect him to SCORE at a high rate, that can not happen.
     
  17. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    I would argue it’s a dumb comparison because it’s a dumb comparison. Say what you will, Jalen has shown he can put the ball in the basket on numerous occasions, not just once like Brewer when he was 28 years old.

    A lot of young, highly drafted prospects get a lot of playing time. Not many go off as often as Jalen does.

     
  18. fchowd0311

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    Jalen Green has been disappointing this season.

    The vast majority of it is within his control.

    What you are doing is accusing people of pushing back against absurd claims against Green and misrepresenting their claims to be antagonistic
     
  19. a time to chill

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    But he would touch the ball more if he consistently scored when he touched the ball, or at least did something useful (i.e. make an assist, don't turn the ball over). He doesn't. Jalen isn't a type 1A player you would cater your offense to. What Udoka is doing is working. They should stick to it.
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    What Udoka is doing is working.

    But what do you mean by "working"? For me "working" means building a foundation of elite mental and physical toughness, conditioning etc that you need to install in young players that is creating a winning environment that can be sustained in the future.

    What he isn't doing is creating a good offense. None of heavy hitters on this team are doing anything efficiently. Fred, Sengun nor Jalen are doing what they are doing inefficiently on the offensive end. And I'm sure a lot of that has to do with the immense amount of pressure Ime presses on the young guys to exert max effort on defense. For young guys that can zap your cardio and legs to do stuff on offense comfortably.

    People compare offensive numbers of guards having better scoring numbers than Jalen on crap tanking teams with some of the worst defensive effort in the league. Remember Jalen was in that environment also and in that environment in his second year under Silas as a 20 year old he averaged 22 ppg on 54% ts which is historically elite for a 20 year old. That's like top ten scoring average in league history for a 20 year old. Same track as guys like Booker and Ant offensively. Booker had the luxury of entering his third and fourth season to inflate his offensive numbers on tanking teams with no pressure to try on defense.

    Same with guys today like Poole and Cam Thomas. These guys wouldn't have anywhere close to the offensive output and efficiency under Ime. In fact their minutes would be significantly reduced.
     

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