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Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

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Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

    94.0%
  2. NO

    6.0%
  1. Sooner423

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    Like that Civic you drive until the wheels fall off... Them wheels are looking pretty shaky right now
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Nonsense! I'm going to keep my new car in the garage and take that old civic with 400,000 miles on a cross country trip!
     
  3. danoman

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    I agree, Ime will do whatever it takes to make the playoffs. Its helping us in a way but at the expense of the rookies. Which is very common with these coaches.
     
  4. ThatBoyNick

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    It’s Ime fault Reed sucks right now? That Holiday has been relatively great? That Fred has empirically been one of our best 2 players and is going through shooting slumps?

    He’s supposed to give up on Fred? He’s supposed to value development over winning in the “phase 2, make playoffs at all costs” era?

    He played Reed every game for the first 24 games of the season, he gave him a chance, the bar was set pretty low for him. Just make shots and hold your own on D. He’s shot 45% TS and gets roasted on D.

    Reed needs g-league
     
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  5. Haymitch

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    As someone who advocated for drafting Reed before the lottery and was excited to get him at #3, I must admit, Reed has been disappointing. He gets bullied on defense as bad as anyone in the NBA. And he doesn't make up for it on the other end of the court.

    My disappointment is probably my own fault, putting unfair expectations on a short 19 year old who went #3 only because he was in an unbelievably weak draft class.

    But regardless, he shouldn't be getting regular, guaranteed minutes on a team trying to win. He's not good enough for that yet. In years past, I would have wanted him to play 20+ minutes every game regardless of his production, but that's not where we are now. I don't know if G-League will help but I don't think it will hurt.
     
  6. Mr. Dominant

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    What’s going on? Are we really not putting this kid in the G-League so he can be the leader and get his confidence and rhythm going?
     
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  7. YaoMac09

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    We need Reed to play like Summer League Reed in the G-League.

    I genuinely don’t know what we are doing with our player development. Jalen and Jabari pretty much got all the minutes they wanted regardless of production. Alpi had a very tight leash despite clearly showing signs of being a star. Amen briefly sent to the G before slowly working himself into the rotation. Who knows what they’re doing with Cam. And Reed’s getting spot minutes in a very limited role.

    I get we’re trying to win now, but then why isn’t Holiday getting all of Reed’s minutes? Dude needs reps to build his confidence.
     
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  8. fattz

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    Coach will use the players he has to win games. (That is his job) Stone took all the opportunities away from Silas forcing development and didn’t happen. Then brought in a new coach and gave him some handpicked veteran talent and things quickly turned around. Now the talent is stacked behind one (Brooks) and playing time is needed for youth development. The other (FVV) has become the focus of the team to the point no development time can be considered because is effects the team to much.

    If Green were to truly step into his role other younger players would have easily had more success with theirs.
     
  9. Rokman

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    Getting used to winning is extremely important otherwise you can lose your competitive drive. Listen to Green the first three years after every loss. He was like "oh, it's fine, every game is just a leaning opportunity ..." Then go skip off to the locker room. Ime doesn't put up with that $hit. Jalen is now getting a taste of the hard work and glory of winning and if you want to keep him long term he has to have a winners mentality, otherwise he'll just cash his checks and go paint his nails and draw on his body like a toddler and the organization will suffer.
     
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  10. Nick

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    Sam Cassell wasn’t a regular as a rookie…. Till he was. Can’t recall all the details, but given how it was more rare for “one and done” to happen in the early 90’s, lets just say he was likely even more mature of a player (and older) than Sheppard is.

    Reed will be a part of this team and playing key minutes at some point. He’s getting valuable experience being on the big league club (not just in the games, but practices, meetings, flights, etc.).
     
  11. cheke64

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    You know the rockets can't develop players. It takes our draft players about 3 to 4 years to look like a 1 year rookie player.
     
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  12. Downtown Sniper

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    The Rockets have had a handful of high draft picks the past few years.

    I'd say Amen is the only one they've managed properly.

    They've screwed the pooch on bringing along every single other high draft pick.
     
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  13. meh

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    https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cassesa01/gamelog/1994
    https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sheppre01/gamelog/2025

    Honestly don't really see much correlation here. Cassell's minutes look like Rudy T was playing matchups between him and Scoot Brooks. Reed doesn't have a Scoot Brooks type to compete since Ime is clearly playing him over Holiday, so really his minutes has been based on how what Ime thinks of him in any particular game.

    But just skimming the game logs, it's weirdly consistent how much Reed doesn't shoot. Not even a single game where he's "feeling it" and jacks up 10+ shots. I mean the shot numbers look similar to Cassell and Cassell played in the 90s when getting 10 points was considered a good scoring outburst.
     
  14. Joe Joe

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    If these guys are developed poorly, what do you expect the Rockets would be like if they actually developed guys well? Undefeated?
     
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  15. Downtown Sniper

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    The fact you say that so smugly makes this all the more hilarious.

    Nah son. Not undefeated.

    A hell of a lot better than they currently are? Hell yes.

    You know why? Because the guy who has shown from day one (FOUR YEARS ago) that he's lightyears ahead of the other guy drafted in his class, would if he was developed properly, have been even further along in his development than he has already shown. Why? Because he would know he's top dog. He'd play like he's top dog. The team would benefit from him being top dog. He'd have three years worth of confidence added to his already amazing game. Instead of being forced to run around the perimeter, hindering not only him but the team, in order to get one of the team's worst players the ball so he can feel good about himself and not sulk and have a cry out there on the court.

    You know how else the team would be a lot better than they are now? By recognising Jalen Green ain't him. And stop acting like he is and stop stifling the team's offense in order to get him repeated shots just in the hopes he has his 1 in 10 (checks schedule, oh they're playing a 5-22 team, here's his one good game coming up). You know what great teams don't do? They don't repeatedly, game after game, keep giving their most inefficient player heavy doses of shots.

    You know how else this team would be better in the future? Having Reed lighting it up in the G League getting the confidence to hoist up 20 shots a game. You know what isn't benefiting Reed or this team? Getting spot minutes and having zero confidence in his game, that he doesn't do the literal one thing he was brought to this team to do - shoot the 3 ball.

    Undefeated? Haha. I know you thought you had a little gotcha moment with that comment.

    For anyone with an ounce of basketball intelligence, the above wasn't hard to comprehend.
     
  16. Newlin

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    In the NBA, when you are drafted for your shooting, you have to be kinda selfish. Shooters shoot the ball.

    Why in the world Reed hasn’t been sent to the Valley is beyond me. I wish reporters would ask Ime what the plan is with Reed. Reed looked good in collage, he looked good in summer league, he now looks afraid to do anything.

    Reporters, do your job and ask some questions. Is everyone intimidated by Ime?
     
  17. DatRocketFan

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    Man should be sent down to g league. If any other high draft pick that we had put up reed stats from the beginning, It would b nonstop btching.

    Expectation r so low for this dude that the same folks btching about Smith and Green being bust are just happy Reed shows up and has no mistakes on the court while putting up like a bucket. It's wild.
     
  18. chef0010

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    OP is on drugs
     
  19. jayhow92

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    A G league stint would benefit him. Get reps and some confidence.
     
  20. sheb

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    He plays more as a point guard when he’s in. P&R and looking to pass 100% of the time. The time he’s off the ball he’s just standing at the 3 pt line. He puts no pressure on opposing defenses. Defenders play the pass because they know they can use their athleticism to close out. If he goes to the valley and sucks his trade value goes to 0.
     

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